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Genuine question - what has SF poured money into? What we need here is expanded BART service and electrified Caltrain, unfortunately NIMBYs in Atherton/Palo Alt

Genuine question - what has SF poured money into? What we need here is expanded BART service and electrified Caltrain, unfortunately NIMBYs in Atherton/Palo Alto block that at every move.

popcorn49 8y ago
Totally agree. In fact, the BART board recently rejected an extension into Livermore, which would have brought down a lot of car trips from the East Bay Area into San Francisco. And a BART train through the South Bay would be great, as would extension to Santa Cruz, Marin, and Napa.
joshAg 8y ago
$3.5 Billion into BART in 2016: https://www.bart.gov/better-bart https://www.bart.gov/better-bart ~$2.0 Billion into caltrain electrification: http://www.caltrain.com/Assets/Caltrain+Modernization+Program/Documents/PCEP+Quarter+4+2016+Report.pdf http://www.caltrain.com/Assets/Caltrain+Modernization+Progra... (page 13)
vechagup 8y ago
- $1.5B: https://www.sfmta.com/projects/central-subway-project https://www.sfmta.com/projects/central-subway-project - $0.5B: https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/ecc https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/ecc - $3.1B (thus far): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_BART_extension https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_BART_extension - $2M (each): https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/cars https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/cars - $1.2B: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-Muni-s-new-light-rail-cars-are-different-12750729.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-Muni-s-new-light-r... - $1.9B: https://calmod.org/ https://calmod.org/ So stuff happens, and I'm grateful when it does -- the new BART cars are nice -- but generally at a snail's pace. It's hard to tell whether NIMBY obstruction (https://www.almanacnews.com/news/2018/03/01/caltrain-and-atherton-cant-reach-a-deal-on-electrification-poles https://www.almanacnews.com/news/2018/03/01/caltrain-and-ath...) or contractor incompetence and mismanagement (https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-subway-stalled-after-contractor-lays-down-12905429.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-subway-stalle...) is more to blame.

Genuine question - what has SF poured money into? What we need here is expanded BART service and electrified Caltrain, unfortunately NIMBYs in Atherton/Palo Alto block that at every move.

popcorn49 8y ago

Totally agree. In fact, the BART board recently rejected an extension into Livermore, which would have brought down a lot of car trips from the East Bay Area into San Francisco. And a BART train through the South Bay would be great, as would extension to Santa Cruz, Marin, and Napa.

joshAg 8y ago

$3.5 Billion into BART in 2016: https://www.bart.gov/better-bart https://www.bart.gov/better-bart ~$2.0 Billion into caltrain electrification: http://www.caltrain.com/Assets/Caltrain+Modernization+Program/Documents/PCEP+Quarter+4+2016+Report.pdf http://www.caltrain.com/Assets/Caltrain+Modernization+Progra... (page 13)

vechagup 8y ago

- $1.5B: https://www.sfmta.com/projects/central-subway-project https://www.sfmta.com/projects/central-subway-project - $0.5B: https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/ecc https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/ecc - $3.1B (thus far): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_BART_extension https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_BART_extension - $2M (each): https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/cars https://www.bart.gov/about/projects/cars - $1.2B: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-Muni-s-new-light-rail-cars-are-different-12750729.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-Muni-s-new-light-r... - $1.9B: https://calmod.org/ https://calmod.org/ So stuff happens, and I'm grateful when it does -- the new BART cars are nice -- but generally at a snail's pace. It's hard to tell whether NIMBY obstruction (https://www.almanacnews.com/news/2018/03/01/caltrain-and-atherton-cant-reach-a-deal-on-electrification-poles https://www.almanacnews.com/news/2018/03/01/caltrain-and-ath...) or contractor incompetence and mismanagement (https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-subway-stalled-after-contractor-lays-down-12905429.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-subway-stalle...) is more to blame.