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A brand new Ford Raptor will clean the air in most cities. You'd have to drive that 465HP fuel guzzling toy over 3,887 miles to equal the particulate output of

A brand new Ford Raptor will clean the air in most cities. You'd have to drive that 465HP fuel guzzling toy over 3,887 miles to equal the particulate output of 30 minutes of yard work with a 2 stroke engine. So not as much of a discount as you might have thought.

mavhc 8y ago
It removes CO2? magic
- jacquesm 8y ago
  He wrote 'particulate'.
- wongarsu 8y ago
  Not CO2, but particulate matter [1]: basically tiny solid particles caused by exhaust, tires etc that stay suspended in the air. They are linked to a range of health issues in the concentrations found in many urban cities. When you hear about cities banning diesel cars or ICE cars or old cars, that's a measure to reduce suspended particulate matter, not CO2. But luckily unlike CO2, particulate matter can be caught by a HEPA air filter. 1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particulates https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particulates
torpfactory 8y ago
It is true that many cars will clean the air of particulate matter these days. That is the only kind of pollution that a modern ICE car will remove, but it is not the only kind of pollution worth talking about.... CO2, NOx and others are just-as, if not more important and your air filter won't do jack diddly for those.
- microcolonel 8y ago
  NOx exhaust aftertreatment systems are standard, so a compliant vehicle today will have considerably less NOx in exhaust as well. As for CO2, well, it's not a small chunk, but cars and light trucks account for less than half of transportation sector CO2 emissions; and the transport sector accounts for about 28% of overall CO2 emissions. It's not silly to reduce CO2 emissions in light trucks and cars, but at most reducing those sources would only cut about 15% of U.S. CO2.
  - bronson 8y ago
    "only 15%"? That's huge!
    - microcolonel 8y ago
      Keep in mind, this is in a country where light trucks and SUVs account for a huge proportion of personal vehicles, and where the average age of a car on the road is about twelve years. As the window of vehicle years shifts further, you can expect that proportion to shrink.
  - londons_explore 8y ago
    Citation for exhausts having significantly less NOx than city air?
    - microcolonel 8y ago
      > Citation for exhausts having significantly less NOx than city air? I absolutely, unequivocally, did not say that.
cannabis_sam 8y ago
It's LITERALLY killing the planet we all depend on, yet you can always depend on car fanatics to justify their pollution. Seriously, sell your car and take the bus.

mavhc 8y ago

It removes CO2? magic

jacquesm 8y ago
He wrote 'particulate'.
wongarsu 8y ago
Not CO2, but particulate matter [1]: basically tiny solid particles caused by exhaust, tires etc that stay suspended in the air. They are linked to a range of health issues in the concentrations found in many urban cities. When you hear about cities banning diesel cars or ICE cars or old cars, that's a measure to reduce suspended particulate matter, not CO2. But luckily unlike CO2, particulate matter can be caught by a HEPA air filter. 1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particulates https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particulates

torpfactory 8y ago

It is true that many cars will clean the air of particulate matter these days. That is the only kind of pollution that a modern ICE car will remove, but it is not the only kind of pollution worth talking about.... CO2, NOx and others are just-as, if not more important and your air filter won't do jack diddly for those.

microcolonel 8y ago
NOx exhaust aftertreatment systems are standard, so a compliant vehicle today will have considerably less NOx in exhaust as well. As for CO2, well, it's not a small chunk, but cars and light trucks account for less than half of transportation sector CO2 emissions; and the transport sector accounts for about 28% of overall CO2 emissions. It's not silly to reduce CO2 emissions in light trucks and cars, but at most reducing those sources would only cut about 15% of U.S. CO2.
- bronson 8y ago
  "only 15%"? That's huge!
  - microcolonel 8y ago
    Keep in mind, this is in a country where light trucks and SUVs account for a huge proportion of personal vehicles, and where the average age of a car on the road is about twelve years. As the window of vehicle years shifts further, you can expect that proportion to shrink.
- londons_explore 8y ago
  Citation for exhausts having significantly less NOx than city air?
  - microcolonel 8y ago
    > Citation for exhausts having significantly less NOx than city air? I absolutely, unequivocally, did not say that.

cannabis_sam 8y ago

It's LITERALLY killing the planet we all depend on, yet you can always depend on car fanatics to justify their pollution. Seriously, sell your car and take the bus.