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All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals, these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals, these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and feed your kids bacon and eggs for breakfast, with water.

Accacin 8y ago
I noticed in the US the milk seemed a lot sweeter than what I'm used to. Then again I'm all about Museli and mainly eaten with soya milk, seems reasonably healthy and quick and easy.
- tracker1 8y ago
  In general, carbs break down into glucose for consumption... which isn't the worst thing. Fructose (about half, or more, of most natural sugars) is only able to be processed by the liver and usually in excess of what can be metabolized meaning a build up of fatty liver. This has other side effects leading to metabolic syndrome/diabetes/heart-disease. A big issue is that many people eating low fat actually don't get enough protein or especially fat. Most natural sources of protein (particularly meat) come with around 0.5g of fat per 1g of protein. Lean sources are quite a bit lower. Without enough fat, many will see issues with their gal bladder over time. There's also more insulin response to protein without accompanying fat. Another issue is refined vegetable oils have more linoleic acid, which leads to more carb absorption in general. In general, most people are now getting too much carbohydrate, often not enough protein, and almost always not enough fat.
  - shados 8y ago
    > Without enough fat, many will see issues with their gal bladder over time Wait what? I was under the impression that most gal bladder issues came from fat, not from not enough fat. Or is it one of those "both extremes are bad" thing?
    - lotsofpulp 8y ago
      “Both extremes are bad” applies to everything, by definition of it being extreme.
      - shados 8y ago
        Fair, though usually "drinking zero water" as an extreme does not cause death by water intoxication, and avoiding all alcohol does not usually cause liver issues. So im curious how this particular extreme affects the galbladder.
        tracker1 8y ago
        See effects of too much potassium vs too little, or magnesium, sodium, phosphorous. The symptoms overlap because when the balance is off, it can have similar effects.
    - tracker1 8y ago
      This article[1], paragraph 2: Even as many doctors subscribe to the myth that eating fat and cholesterol leads to gallstones, research indicates that eating too little fat and too many carbohydrates in the form of grains, sugars and starches actually leads to gallbladder ailments. ... Or on WebMD from over a decade ago [2] .. as to the saturated fats... generally animal sources of fats are about half or less saturated, and generally a good mix. [1] https://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/library/articles/dealing-with-gallbladder-disorders https://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/library/articles/dealing... [2] https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/news/20041004/more-unsaturated-fats-fewer-gallstones https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/news/20041004/more...
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Or a nice cup of tea :)
malkia 8y ago
I bacon that!
esotericn 8y ago
Pretty much. The vast majority of cereals simply are not food. They are a treat. At most, perhaps some porridge with fruit for sweetness. Even the unsweetened stuff like corn flakes - sure, it has less refined sugar, but you're basically eating cardboard. Get some real green vegetables in you!
flareback 8y ago
I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.
- dangus 8y ago
  Take a whole package of bacon, put it on a cookie sheet. Bake 15 minutes in the oven at 350 degrees to your liking. Remove, Drain/cool. Place bacon in freezer. Take eggs. Boil in water. Place in refrigerator. Voila, you now have bacon and eggs in the morning for multiple days with zero effort. Another easy one - McDonald’s style Egg McMuffin: You’ve got your frozen English muffins because you’re lazy and don’t want to deal with moldy bread. Throw one in the microwave for 30 seconds. Remove and place in toaster to toast. In the meantime crack an egg into a cereal bowl and microwave to poach. I think that’s 30 seconds? Now your egg and muffin are done, add cheese and ham or that frozen bacon from the above, microwave to melt the cheese and such. Not the healthiest stuff out there but it’s by no means difficult. I think many people wanting to transition from buying pre-made food to making actual food need to do so in baby steps.
  - nzb 8y ago
    Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful. I hate cooking bacon, especially in the morning, because the smell sticks to my clothes and my hair.
    - dragontamer 8y ago
      > Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful. No more "awful" than a McDonald's McMuffin. Since that's literally what they do. Bacon surprisly reheats in the microwave well. Its better fresh. With that being said, I can feel the oil and grease so I'd personally prefer not to eat bacon every morning. Eggs taste fine cold, so I personally go with the boiled (but currently cold) egg. ---------- At minimum, something as greasy as bacon gives me pimples if I eat it every day. I can't imagine bacon each morning is healthier than even Cinnamon Toast Crunch (which has less sugar than most people realize...) http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000787225 http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000787225 https://www.crazysquares.com/products/cinnamon-toast-crunch/?gclid=CImOi4u_z98CFRLlswoddCEKNw https://www.crazysquares.com/products/cinnamon-toast-crunch/... Cinnamon Toast Crunch has 9g of Sugar. Special K Oats and Honey has 11g. Granted, Special K has a bigger serving size (31g vs 42g), but the sugar content is actually comparable between the two.
z_open 8y ago
You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.
- otabdeveloper2 8y ago
  I'm pretty sure that the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks is fake news.
  - will_brown 8y ago
    Correct dietary cholesterol is unrelated to high cholesterol in people. It’s a myth invented by...the sugar industry.
    - KIFulgore 8y ago
      I've read that lean, cholesterol-laden meats like shrimp, oysters, and liver do not raise cholesterol, but meats high in saturated fat will (ie, butter and ribeye steak).
  - chongli 8y ago
    Yeah. The problem with bacon is the nitrites, not the cholesterol.
    - TACIXAT 8y ago
      Yea, I'm celiac and sodium nitrite is one of the foods I cut out. Might not affect everyone but it definitely messes with me. The uncured bacon products usually have celery powder which also contains sodium nitrite. Plain pork belly is the way to go.
      - NikolaeVarius 8y ago
        So you can't eat celery?
ariehkovler 8y ago
> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade. We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.
- will_brown 8y ago
  I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose. The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).
  - snazz 8y ago
    I’ve noticed that many products in the US now have an “added sugars” section under the sugars section in the nutritional labels. It always seems to be 0g in all of the milk bottles and cartons I’ve seen, but I’m pretty particular on my milk so I might not have seen the average kind that most people get.
    - undersuit 8y ago
      The FDA allows manufactuers to round down for values less than .5g, it's why something like a dry rub for BBQ will have some sugar in it but the nutrition facts will say 0g sugar per serving.
  - testvox 8y ago
    I haven't seen this personally, but people should know how modern milk is made. First all the parts are separated (milk proteins, fat, lactose) then reconstituted in different proportions for each type of milk. I've noticed that low fat milk generally has the same caloric content as high fat milk, they just add in more lactose in place of the missing fat (I presume to ensure the milk doesn't taste gross and watery).
helo1252 8y ago
Bacon contains nitrates that have been proven to cause cancer. I believe the increased cancer rate is very low however. Also, "nitrate free" bacon usually contains nitrates in a different form (celery powder), which i've read actually contains more nitrates than typical and therefore is actually way worse. I would stick with eggs, with oatmeal, sweetened with some berries.
- NikolaeVarius 8y ago
  Nope, incorrect. Nitrites/Nitrates don't have any good evidence by themselves for being carcinogenic/generally harmful. However, they can form nitrosomenes when cooked at a high heat alongside protein, aka fried bacon, which are considered carcinogenic (but concentrations vary on how much is actually harmful). Eat oven baked/microwave bacon every once in a while, and its fine.
farresito 8y ago
Bacon and eggs? Jesus... Considering you are advocating for removing unhealthy foods, surely you could have mentioned something actually healthy.
- danharaj 8y ago
  There's nothing wrong with bacon and eggs. A vegetable would be nice tho.
- dragontamer 8y ago
  I'm surprised this is getting downvoted. Eggs seem reasonably healthy, but last time I ate that every morning, my cholesterol readings spiked. Bacon has higher fat, saturated fat, and preservatives than fresh eggs. I would imagine that bacon is worse. This thread is an exercise in food fashion. What is "healthy" is more about a fashion trend rather than hard science. In any case, the scientifically recommended diets to high-blood pressure patients (what US People suffer most of) is the "DASH" diet. And unlike other fad diets, the "DASH" diet is actually scientifically studied. Bacon is certainly off the Dash diet, since it completely blows up your salt intake for the day. There has been a demonization of sugar recently, but no doctor has ever recommended to me a low-sugar / glycemic index index diet. It doesn't seem like I'm personally at risk for Diabetes (while I'm high-risk for High-blood pressure). So I'll stick to my doctor's advice for me personally, rather than take some internet opinions.
dangus 8y ago
Of course, the cereals without added sugar have always existed - plain Cheerios, plain corn flakes, plain Rice Krispies, etc. Sure, they’re processed grains, and you’re eating them with milk, but it’s still a massive improvement over downing some Cinnamon Toast Crunch with a Pop Tart on the side. The marketing reality is a big problem. We can’t keep with the status quo of kid’s TV channels filled with ads for sugar. It’s no different than having TV ads for cigarettes touting their benefits to your lifestyle and enjoyment. A lot of parents think these foods are fine because the commercial said so. The reality is that it’s really no more difficult for a busy parent to serve some oatmeal with fruit or something of that sort.
ArrayList 8y ago
Bacon and eggs are absolute garbage. Bacon and other processed red meat has been implicated in cancer[1], eggs are overloaded with cholesterol and have also been associated with arterial plaque [2]. This doesn't even get into the massive animal ethics issues and global warming issues that animal agriculture causes. What about oatmeal with fruit, flax, and peanut butter - now there's a concept. (And really better yet? - no breakfast. I recommend intermittent fasting or "IF" as it's usually called.) [1] http://pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/diet-cancer/facts/bacon-causes-cancer http://pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/diet-cancer/facts/ba... [2] https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/08/20/what-do-eggs-do-to-our-arteries/ https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/08/20/what-do-eggs-do-to-our...
- lhl 8y ago
  Speaking of absolute garbage why are you bothering citing pop garbage nutrition articles when there's plenty of peer-reviewed data? Here's a 2015 meta-analysis of dietary nitrates, nitrates, and nitrosamine intake and cancer risk: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4690057/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4690057/ - overall, results were pretty weak, with pretty small hazard ratios (1.31 and 1.34 for nitrites and NDMA respectively). This seems largely matched by a 2017 review: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5669970/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5669970/ There are many other things you could do to reduce your risk of cancer if that were you're primary health concern (my personal preference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/ and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255155/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255155/). There's even more research on eggs (I also checked the author information, these are real academics, not just industry shills as your reference implies must be behind all pro-egg research) - you can also see my other citations in this thread to see references on how dietary cholesterol has little impact on serum cholesterol, and also how high cholesterol has very little to say about CVD (also eggs actually raise HDL which is a good thing if you're looking at cholesterol sub-fractions, you really need to be looking at the research on Lp(a) and Ox-LDL). Anyway, overall consensus, seems to be that eggs are not absolute garbage: * 2015 Egg Consumption and Human Cardio-Metabolic Health in People with and without Diabetes https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586539/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586539/ * 2016 Eggs and Health Special Issue https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5188439/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5188439/ * 2016 Eggs: good or bad? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27126575 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27126575 * 2017 Intake of up to 3 Eggs per Day Is Associated with Changes in HDL Function and Increased Plasma Antioxidants in Healthy, Young Adults. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28077734 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28077734 * 2017 Consuming Two Eggs per Day, as Compared to an Oatmeal Breakfast, Decreases Plasma Ghrelin while Maintaining the LDL/HDL Ratio https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5331520/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5331520/

Accacin 8y ago

I noticed in the US the milk seemed a lot sweeter than what I'm used to. Then again I'm all about Museli and mainly eaten with soya milk, seems reasonably healthy and quick and easy.

tracker1 8y ago
In general, carbs break down into glucose for consumption... which isn't the worst thing. Fructose (about half, or more, of most natural sugars) is only able to be processed by the liver and usually in excess of what can be metabolized meaning a build up of fatty liver. This has other side effects leading to metabolic syndrome/diabetes/heart-disease. A big issue is that many people eating low fat actually don't get enough protein or especially fat. Most natural sources of protein (particularly meat) come with around 0.5g of fat per 1g of protein. Lean sources are quite a bit lower. Without enough fat, many will see issues with their gal bladder over time. There's also more insulin response to protein without accompanying fat. Another issue is refined vegetable oils have more linoleic acid, which leads to more carb absorption in general. In general, most people are now getting too much carbohydrate, often not enough protein, and almost always not enough fat.
- shados 8y ago
  > Without enough fat, many will see issues with their gal bladder over time Wait what? I was under the impression that most gal bladder issues came from fat, not from not enough fat. Or is it one of those "both extremes are bad" thing?
  - lotsofpulp 8y ago
    “Both extremes are bad” applies to everything, by definition of it being extreme.
    - shados 8y ago
      Fair, though usually "drinking zero water" as an extreme does not cause death by water intoxication, and avoiding all alcohol does not usually cause liver issues. So im curious how this particular extreme affects the galbladder.
      - tracker1 8y ago
        See effects of too much potassium vs too little, or magnesium, sodium, phosphorous. The symptoms overlap because when the balance is off, it can have similar effects.
  - tracker1 8y ago
    This article[1], paragraph 2: Even as many doctors subscribe to the myth that eating fat and cholesterol leads to gallstones, research indicates that eating too little fat and too many carbohydrates in the form of grains, sugars and starches actually leads to gallbladder ailments. ... Or on WebMD from over a decade ago [2] .. as to the saturated fats... generally animal sources of fats are about half or less saturated, and generally a good mix. [1] https://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/library/articles/dealing-with-gallbladder-disorders https://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/library/articles/dealing... [2] https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/news/20041004/more-unsaturated-fats-fewer-gallstones https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/news/20041004/more...

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

Or a nice cup of tea :)

malkia 8y ago

I bacon that!

esotericn 8y ago

Pretty much. The vast majority of cereals simply are not food. They are a treat. At most, perhaps some porridge with fruit for sweetness. Even the unsweetened stuff like corn flakes - sure, it has less refined sugar, but you're basically eating cardboard. Get some real green vegetables in you!

flareback 8y ago

I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.

dangus 8y ago
Take a whole package of bacon, put it on a cookie sheet. Bake 15 minutes in the oven at 350 degrees to your liking. Remove, Drain/cool. Place bacon in freezer. Take eggs. Boil in water. Place in refrigerator. Voila, you now have bacon and eggs in the morning for multiple days with zero effort. Another easy one - McDonald’s style Egg McMuffin: You’ve got your frozen English muffins because you’re lazy and don’t want to deal with moldy bread. Throw one in the microwave for 30 seconds. Remove and place in toaster to toast. In the meantime crack an egg into a cereal bowl and microwave to poach. I think that’s 30 seconds? Now your egg and muffin are done, add cheese and ham or that frozen bacon from the above, microwave to melt the cheese and such. Not the healthiest stuff out there but it’s by no means difficult. I think many people wanting to transition from buying pre-made food to making actual food need to do so in baby steps.
- nzb 8y ago
  Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful. I hate cooking bacon, especially in the morning, because the smell sticks to my clothes and my hair.
  - dragontamer 8y ago
    > Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful. No more "awful" than a McDonald's McMuffin. Since that's literally what they do. Bacon surprisly reheats in the microwave well. Its better fresh. With that being said, I can feel the oil and grease so I'd personally prefer not to eat bacon every morning. Eggs taste fine cold, so I personally go with the boiled (but currently cold) egg. ---------- At minimum, something as greasy as bacon gives me pimples if I eat it every day. I can't imagine bacon each morning is healthier than even Cinnamon Toast Crunch (which has less sugar than most people realize...) http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000787225 http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000787225 https://www.crazysquares.com/products/cinnamon-toast-crunch/?gclid=CImOi4u_z98CFRLlswoddCEKNw https://www.crazysquares.com/products/cinnamon-toast-crunch/... Cinnamon Toast Crunch has 9g of Sugar. Special K Oats and Honey has 11g. Granted, Special K has a bigger serving size (31g vs 42g), but the sugar content is actually comparable between the two.

z_open 8y ago

You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.

otabdeveloper2 8y ago
I'm pretty sure that the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks is fake news.
- will_brown 8y ago
  Correct dietary cholesterol is unrelated to high cholesterol in people. It’s a myth invented by...the sugar industry.
  - KIFulgore 8y ago
    I've read that lean, cholesterol-laden meats like shrimp, oysters, and liver do not raise cholesterol, but meats high in saturated fat will (ie, butter and ribeye steak).
- chongli 8y ago
  Yeah. The problem with bacon is the nitrites, not the cholesterol.
  - TACIXAT 8y ago
    Yea, I'm celiac and sodium nitrite is one of the foods I cut out. Might not affect everyone but it definitely messes with me. The uncured bacon products usually have celery powder which also contains sodium nitrite. Plain pork belly is the way to go.
    - NikolaeVarius 8y ago
      So you can't eat celery?

ariehkovler 8y ago

> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade. We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.

will_brown 8y ago
I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose. The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).
- snazz 8y ago
  I’ve noticed that many products in the US now have an “added sugars” section under the sugars section in the nutritional labels. It always seems to be 0g in all of the milk bottles and cartons I’ve seen, but I’m pretty particular on my milk so I might not have seen the average kind that most people get.
  - undersuit 8y ago
    The FDA allows manufactuers to round down for values less than .5g, it's why something like a dry rub for BBQ will have some sugar in it but the nutrition facts will say 0g sugar per serving.
- testvox 8y ago
  I haven't seen this personally, but people should know how modern milk is made. First all the parts are separated (milk proteins, fat, lactose) then reconstituted in different proportions for each type of milk. I've noticed that low fat milk generally has the same caloric content as high fat milk, they just add in more lactose in place of the missing fat (I presume to ensure the milk doesn't taste gross and watery).

helo1252 8y ago

Bacon contains nitrates that have been proven to cause cancer. I believe the increased cancer rate is very low however. Also, "nitrate free" bacon usually contains nitrates in a different form (celery powder), which i've read actually contains more nitrates than typical and therefore is actually way worse. I would stick with eggs, with oatmeal, sweetened with some berries.

NikolaeVarius 8y ago
Nope, incorrect. Nitrites/Nitrates don't have any good evidence by themselves for being carcinogenic/generally harmful. However, they can form nitrosomenes when cooked at a high heat alongside protein, aka fried bacon, which are considered carcinogenic (but concentrations vary on how much is actually harmful). Eat oven baked/microwave bacon every once in a while, and its fine.

farresito 8y ago

Bacon and eggs? Jesus... Considering you are advocating for removing unhealthy foods, surely you could have mentioned something actually healthy.

danharaj 8y ago
There's nothing wrong with bacon and eggs. A vegetable would be nice tho.
dragontamer 8y ago
I'm surprised this is getting downvoted. Eggs seem reasonably healthy, but last time I ate that every morning, my cholesterol readings spiked. Bacon has higher fat, saturated fat, and preservatives than fresh eggs. I would imagine that bacon is worse. This thread is an exercise in food fashion. What is "healthy" is more about a fashion trend rather than hard science. In any case, the scientifically recommended diets to high-blood pressure patients (what US People suffer most of) is the "DASH" diet. And unlike other fad diets, the "DASH" diet is actually scientifically studied. Bacon is certainly off the Dash diet, since it completely blows up your salt intake for the day. There has been a demonization of sugar recently, but no doctor has ever recommended to me a low-sugar / glycemic index index diet. It doesn't seem like I'm personally at risk for Diabetes (while I'm high-risk for High-blood pressure). So I'll stick to my doctor's advice for me personally, rather than take some internet opinions.

dangus 8y ago

Of course, the cereals without added sugar have always existed - plain Cheerios, plain corn flakes, plain Rice Krispies, etc. Sure, they’re processed grains, and you’re eating them with milk, but it’s still a massive improvement over downing some Cinnamon Toast Crunch with a Pop Tart on the side. The marketing reality is a big problem. We can’t keep with the status quo of kid’s TV channels filled with ads for sugar. It’s no different than having TV ads for cigarettes touting their benefits to your lifestyle and enjoyment. A lot of parents think these foods are fine because the commercial said so. The reality is that it’s really no more difficult for a busy parent to serve some oatmeal with fruit or something of that sort.

ArrayList 8y ago

Bacon and eggs are absolute garbage. Bacon and other processed red meat has been implicated in cancer[1], eggs are overloaded with cholesterol and have also been associated with arterial plaque [2]. This doesn't even get into the massive animal ethics issues and global warming issues that animal agriculture causes. What about oatmeal with fruit, flax, and peanut butter - now there's a concept. (And really better yet? - no breakfast. I recommend intermittent fasting or "IF" as it's usually called.) [1] http://pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/diet-cancer/facts/bacon-causes-cancer http://pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/diet-cancer/facts/ba... [2] https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/08/20/what-do-eggs-do-to-our-arteries/ https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/08/20/what-do-eggs-do-to-our...

lhl 8y ago
Speaking of absolute garbage why are you bothering citing pop garbage nutrition articles when there's plenty of peer-reviewed data? Here's a 2015 meta-analysis of dietary nitrates, nitrates, and nitrosamine intake and cancer risk: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4690057/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4690057/ - overall, results were pretty weak, with pretty small hazard ratios (1.31 and 1.34 for nitrites and NDMA respectively). This seems largely matched by a 2017 review: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5669970/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5669970/ There are many other things you could do to reduce your risk of cancer if that were you're primary health concern (my personal preference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/ and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255155/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255155/). There's even more research on eggs (I also checked the author information, these are real academics, not just industry shills as your reference implies must be behind all pro-egg research) - you can also see my other citations in this thread to see references on how dietary cholesterol has little impact on serum cholesterol, and also how high cholesterol has very little to say about CVD (also eggs actually raise HDL which is a good thing if you're looking at cholesterol sub-fractions, you really need to be looking at the research on Lp(a) and Ox-LDL). Anyway, overall consensus, seems to be that eggs are not absolute garbage: * 2015 Egg Consumption and Human Cardio-Metabolic Health in People with and without Diabetes https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586539/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586539/ * 2016 Eggs and Health Special Issue https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5188439/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5188439/ * 2016 Eggs: good or bad? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27126575 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27126575 * 2017 Intake of up to 3 Eggs per Day Is Associated with Changes in HDL Function and Increased Plasma Antioxidants in Healthy, Young Adults. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28077734 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28077734 * 2017 Consuming Two Eggs per Day, as Compared to an Oatmeal Breakfast, Decreases Plasma Ghrelin while Maintaining the LDL/HDL Ratio https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5331520/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5331520/