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If you crack open a real spectrum analyzer (not some hacked together SDR toy) you’ll still find plenty of distributed and analog circuitry. That’s what it take

If you crack open a real spectrum analyzer (not some hacked together SDR toy) you’ll still find plenty of distributed and analog circuitry. That’s what it takes to get spur-free performance.

MegaDeKay 8y ago
Speaking of hacked together RF toys, I picked up an IM-Me toy a few years ago just so I could play around with Michael Ossmann's "$16 spectrum analyzer". I was able to see (poorly) the transmissions from my wireless weather station with it. http://ossmann.blogspot.com/2010/03/16-pocket-spectrum-analyzer.html http://ossmann.blogspot.com/2010/03/16-pocket-spectrum-analy... There is also a five part series on Youtube talking about what else you can do with the IM-Me. It is pretty amazing and well worth watching if you have some time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU30mF_dgM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU30mF_dgM
jjoonathan 8y ago
SDRs are total spur-fests, yes, but at 0% the cost of a real SA (rounded) the economics sometimes work out :-) That said, at the high end of the SDR range, the new AD937x chips ($325 in qty 1k!) make impressive claims wrt automagic spur suppression. They still don't beat high-IF or YIG preselected SAs, but now they claim to be in the ballpark under non-overload conditions. Has anyone here dug deep enough to comment?
- madengr 8y ago
  The pre-selection is a big deal. The AD936x needs good front end filtering to reject n*LO. For instance 5x146 MHz = 730 MHz, which translates that 730 MHz nation-wide LTE signal smack-dab into the 2m amateur band. Unless they have a new front-end architecture in the AD937x, all the I/Q calibration won't help them. Of course as you said, for $325 it's not a consumer chip, so some $ will be spent on external passives.
  - jjoonathan 8y ago
    Ah, right, I/Q calibration can't suppress anything out-of-band. Makes sense.

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If you crack open a real spectrum analyzer (not some hacked together SDR toy) you’ll still find plenty of distributed and analog circuitry. That’s what it take

by madengr 8y ago

If you crack open a real spectrum analyzer (not some hacked together SDR toy) you’ll still find plenty of distributed and analog circuitry. That’s what it takes to get spur-free performance.

MegaDeKay 8y ago
Speaking of hacked together RF toys, I picked up an IM-Me toy a few years ago just so I could play around with Michael Ossmann's "$16 spectrum analyzer". I was able to see (poorly) the transmissions from my wireless weather station with it. http://ossmann.blogspot.com/2010/03/16-pocket-spectrum-analyzer.html http://ossmann.blogspot.com/2010/03/16-pocket-spectrum-analy... There is also a five part series on Youtube talking about what else you can do with the IM-Me. It is pretty amazing and well worth watching if you have some time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU30mF_dgM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU30mF_dgM
jjoonathan 8y ago
SDRs are total spur-fests, yes, but at 0% the cost of a real SA (rounded) the economics sometimes work out :-) That said, at the high end of the SDR range, the new AD937x chips ($325 in qty 1k!) make impressive claims wrt automagic spur suppression. They still don't beat high-IF or YIG preselected SAs, but now they claim to be in the ballpark under non-overload conditions. Has anyone here dug deep enough to comment?
- madengr 8y ago
  The pre-selection is a big deal. The AD936x needs good front end filtering to reject n*LO. For instance 5x146 MHz = 730 MHz, which translates that 730 MHz nation-wide LTE signal smack-dab into the 2m amateur band. Unless they have a new front-end architecture in the AD937x, all the I/Q calibration won't help them. Of course as you said, for $325 it's not a consumer chip, so some $ will be spent on external passives.
  - jjoonathan 8y ago
    Ah, right, I/Q calibration can't suppress anything out-of-band. Makes sense.