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IQ is well supported, but raceXiq is very poorly supported. Most of the HBD and 'race realism' stuff fails simply at trying to define race. Often it's 'colore
by Obi_Juan_Kenobi 8y ago
IQ is well supported, but raceXiq is very poorly supported.
Most of the HBD and 'race realism' stuff fails simply at trying to define race. Often it's 'colored people', and not any kind of grouping that even resembles human genetic diversity. This all relies on very straight-forward and well-established genetics, but they generally can't even come close to the mark here. They'll shout and scream about how "you're not allowed to study this!" despite plenty of scholarly work on human genetic diversity. It's not literally titled 'black people are human garbage', so I can see why they might have trouble finding it.
There's also a lot of cherry-picking, agonizing over particular sub-populations that happen to fit their narrative and acting as though that's case closed.
The reality is that most of the population diversity is in Africa and a bunch of isolated islands. Yet even in these extreme outliers we don't see much in by way of large effects (intra > inter, generally). But the race realist narrative, somehow and miraculously, comes to the conclusion that white people are super duper great, the somewhat less white people are somewhat less great, and black people are genetically .. unfortunate. Who knew?! They just got so damn lucky and happened to hate just the right people!
Plenty of detailed refutation for anyone interested:
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/39t4vx/gathering_some_old_refutations_of_the_typical/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/39t4...
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/39bx7w/welcome_to_ahs/cs2bzsr/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/39bx...
https://old.reddit.com/r/debatepoliticalphil/comments/7m3lex/argument_the_case_against_race_realism/ https://old.reddit.com/r/debatepoliticalphil/comments/7m3lex...
- pl1234 8y agoComically wrong. Defining ancestry is not that hard, sub-saharan africans will cluster together regardless of the diversity in Africa. This is what the experts actually think regarding black-white differences in IQ: "Asked: What are the sources of U.S. black-white differences in IQ? 0% of differences due to genes: (17% of our experts) 0-40% of differences due to genes: 42% of our experts [i.e., 42% = 17% said "0%" and 25% said "1% to 40%") 50% of differences due to genes: 18% of our experts 60-100% of differences due to genes: 39% of our experts [i.e., 39% = 34% said "60% to 99%" and 5% said "100%"] 100% of differences due to genes: (5% of our experts) M=47% of differences due to genes (SD=31%)" http://www.unz.com/isteve/taleb-iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle/ http://www.unz.com/isteve/taleb-iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscient...