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A list of useful books for game AI programming (2014)

136 points by rglover 8y ago

poseid 8y ago
nice list... wondering what EU unis have to offer in this context
dang 8y ago
2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13174542 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13174542 2015: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8835085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8835085
barefoot 8y ago
Note the publication dates on the books under the "Academic AI Textbooks": 2002, 1998, 1992. While many core concepts featured in these books (eg: backpropagation and genetic algorithms) are still relevant today we've come a long way in finding palatable explanations for them.
Kaveren 8y ago
I think it's questionable to group machine learning in with "game AI". Most "game AI" isn't "real" AI at all, in any meaningful sense, so I think the term should be put out of use, it removes a useful differentiation. That aside, the Game AI Pro series is recent and probably a good addition to a list like this [0]. You can read the first two books for free. All books have different content, they're not just one book with newer editions. [0] https://www.gameaipro.com/ https://www.gameaipro.com/
- PinkMilkshake 8y ago
  > Most "game AI" isn't "real" AI at all, in any meaningful sense Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this sounds like the AI effect at work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect
  - Kaveren 8y ago
    I think it's more nuanced than that. If in a game, you program whether or not Enemy decides to attack based on if there's a player within 20 units of Enemy, there's nothing artificially intelligent there, it's all hardcoded. "...Kaplan and Haenlein define AI as “a system’s ability to correctly interpret external data, to learn from such data, and to use those learnings to achieve specific goals and tasks through flexible adaptation”...Colloquially, the term "artificial intelligence" is applied when a machine mimics "cognitive" functions that humans associate with other human minds, such as "learning" and "problem solving"." [0] Much of "game AI" doesn't attempt to do this. There definitely is "real" academic AI going on in some games, it's just not as common. Even the book I link uses the AI term quite generously. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
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    - ggggtez 8y ago
      It's like you are arguing that you don't like that "game ai" is an industry term. It's what professionals call it.
- ggggtez 8y ago
  I don't think that is a helpful distinction. In fact, most games use the techniques you will find in those books. To say it's not "real" is arbitrary and irrelevant.
falsedan 8y ago
Jeff came up with Goal Oriented Action Planning for F.E.A.R, which notably moved away from the traditional game AI practice of putting all your actor logic in a giant case/if-else state machine.
poseid 8y ago
a very useful list, not only for AI game programming

136 points by rglover 8y ago

nice list... wondering what EU unis have to offer in this context

dang 8y ago

2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13174542 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13174542 2015: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8835085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8835085

barefoot 8y ago

Note the publication dates on the books under the "Academic AI Textbooks": 2002, 1998, 1992. While many core concepts featured in these books (eg: backpropagation and genetic algorithms) are still relevant today we've come a long way in finding palatable explanations for them.

Kaveren 8y ago

I think it's questionable to group machine learning in with "game AI". Most "game AI" isn't "real" AI at all, in any meaningful sense, so I think the term should be put out of use, it removes a useful differentiation. That aside, the Game AI Pro series is recent and probably a good addition to a list like this [0]. You can read the first two books for free. All books have different content, they're not just one book with newer editions. [0] https://www.gameaipro.com/ https://www.gameaipro.com/

PinkMilkshake 8y ago
> Most "game AI" isn't "real" AI at all, in any meaningful sense Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this sounds like the AI effect at work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect
- Kaveren 8y ago
  I think it's more nuanced than that. If in a game, you program whether or not Enemy decides to attack based on if there's a player within 20 units of Enemy, there's nothing artificially intelligent there, it's all hardcoded. "...Kaplan and Haenlein define AI as “a system’s ability to correctly interpret external data, to learn from such data, and to use those learnings to achieve specific goals and tasks through flexible adaptation”...Colloquially, the term "artificial intelligence" is applied when a machine mimics "cognitive" functions that humans associate with other human minds, such as "learning" and "problem solving"." [0] Much of "game AI" doesn't attempt to do this. There definitely is "real" academic AI going on in some games, it's just not as common. Even the book I link uses the AI term quite generously. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
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  - ggggtez 8y ago
    It's like you are arguing that you don't like that "game ai" is an industry term. It's what professionals call it.
ggggtez 8y ago
I don't think that is a helpful distinction. In fact, most games use the techniques you will find in those books. To say it's not "real" is arbitrary and irrelevant.

falsedan 8y ago

Jeff came up with Goal Oriented Action Planning for F.E.A.R, which notably moved away from the traditional game AI practice of putting all your actor logic in a giant case/if-else state machine.

poseid 8y ago

a very useful list, not only for AI game programming