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> How about “stop being actively hostile to people”. Most rural areas are populated by anti-people people. ... I don't buy this. Have you ever been to some of

> How about “stop being actively hostile to people”. Most rural areas are populated by anti-people people. ... I don't buy this. Have you ever been to some of these places (let alone "most" of them) or are you just repeating self-serving urbanites' stereotypes? Villeinizing rural folks is a pastime as old as history itself.

scarejunba 8y ago
Haha. Cool etymology reference. Yeah, man. I've lived in small towns in the South. I didn't make shit up. But why believe me. ? Go see how many rural people think marriage should be between a man and a woman. Go on. Convince yourself without my interference with a source you think is reputable. But if you'd rather I show you something, take a gander at this https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/record-percentage-americans-support-gay-marriage-poll-finds-n799376 https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/record-percentage-am... (47% for allowing in rural regions) And if you want to entertain yourself, narrow that to Republicans in the region and see what they think allowing gay marriage is for society http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/urban-suburban-and-rural-residents-views-on-key-social-and-political-issues/psd_05-22-18_community-type-02-03/ http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/urban-suburban-and... You can try to cozy up to them if you want. I'll call them what a straight majority of them are: homophobes. If the truth offends, the sin is in your eye.
- general8bitso 8y ago
  rural != ‘The South’
  - scarejunba 8y ago
    That's right, trivially. I was in rural areas in The South. No person's experience of rural areas = The South because of the obviousness of the fact that the RHS is a larger set than the LHS and therefore the obvious set equivalence would mean that they are different. Fortunately, I have on the ground experience. But I don't even have to try that hard because we have surveys these days, and rural voters aren't afraid to show their homophobia. Also, as an aside, did you think people forgot Prop 8 so fast? It wasn't The Bay or LA that pushed that over the line.
velobro 8y ago
My parents moved to California from southeast Missouri, also known as "Missourah". As of this day we are the only ones in our family that don't live in Missouri/Tennessee/Arkansas. My Mom stopped taking my sister and I to visit on our 1 month breaks (elementary school track system) when I was about 12 due to the overall toxcicity of the rest of my family. They resented the fact that my father and her "left" and became succesful in the construction business during California's 80/90s housing boom. The mindset of the rural individual is that of jealousy. They want the opportunities of a big city where there are more people, but they don't "like" people. That's why they choose to live rural and have that become part of their identity. That "identity" is wholly incompatible with a densly populated area. This is why Trump is able to appeal to these people by promising them good economic fortunes without them having to change their way of life.
- zozbot123 8y ago
  > ... They want the opportunities of a big city where there are more people, but they don't "like" people. That's why they choose to live rural and have that become part of their identity. That "identity" is wholly incompatible with a densly populated area. ... Or maybe they just like living somewhere cheap and with plenty of space around them. You know, like anyone sensible would, other things being equal. It has nothing to do with them being misanthropes. Or are Chinese and Indian folks so much more empathetic than us Westerners also, because they live in such population density?

scarejunba 8y ago

Haha. Cool etymology reference. Yeah, man. I've lived in small towns in the South. I didn't make shit up. But why believe me. ? Go see how many rural people think marriage should be between a man and a woman. Go on. Convince yourself without my interference with a source you think is reputable. But if you'd rather I show you something, take a gander at this https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/record-percentage-americans-support-gay-marriage-poll-finds-n799376 https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/record-percentage-am... (47% for allowing in rural regions) And if you want to entertain yourself, narrow that to Republicans in the region and see what they think allowing gay marriage is for society http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/urban-suburban-and-rural-residents-views-on-key-social-and-political-issues/psd_05-22-18_community-type-02-03/ http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/urban-suburban-and... You can try to cozy up to them if you want. I'll call them what a straight majority of them are: homophobes. If the truth offends, the sin is in your eye.

general8bitso 8y ago
rural != ‘The South’
- scarejunba 8y ago
  That's right, trivially. I was in rural areas in The South. No person's experience of rural areas = The South because of the obviousness of the fact that the RHS is a larger set than the LHS and therefore the obvious set equivalence would mean that they are different. Fortunately, I have on the ground experience. But I don't even have to try that hard because we have surveys these days, and rural voters aren't afraid to show their homophobia. Also, as an aside, did you think people forgot Prop 8 so fast? It wasn't The Bay or LA that pushed that over the line.

velobro 8y ago

My parents moved to California from southeast Missouri, also known as "Missourah". As of this day we are the only ones in our family that don't live in Missouri/Tennessee/Arkansas. My Mom stopped taking my sister and I to visit on our 1 month breaks (elementary school track system) when I was about 12 due to the overall toxcicity of the rest of my family. They resented the fact that my father and her "left" and became succesful in the construction business during California's 80/90s housing boom. The mindset of the rural individual is that of jealousy. They want the opportunities of a big city where there are more people, but they don't "like" people. That's why they choose to live rural and have that become part of their identity. That "identity" is wholly incompatible with a densly populated area. This is why Trump is able to appeal to these people by promising them good economic fortunes without them having to change their way of life.

zozbot123 8y ago
> ... They want the opportunities of a big city where there are more people, but they don't "like" people. That's why they choose to live rural and have that become part of their identity. That "identity" is wholly incompatible with a densly populated area. ... Or maybe they just like living somewhere cheap and with plenty of space around them. You know, like anyone sensible would, other things being equal. It has nothing to do with them being misanthropes. Or are Chinese and Indian folks so much more empathetic than us Westerners also, because they live in such population density?