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Don't like champagne, maybe the "secret" is effective marketing?

cpach 8y ago
I don’t know. It’s not really a fad.
Nursie 8y ago
I used to love the stuff, now it gives me terrible acid indigestion and I don't care for the taste anymore either. Each to their own I guess, but I agree that "universal appeal" is overblown.
coldtea 8y ago
You don't like it. Countless others do. Marketing is more the case with sugared water (ie.e. sodas, that actually spends billions in advertising each year), than with champagne, which is not a single-brand product but tons of different producers, and that was popular way before modern mass marketing was a thing. People seldom get to even see champagne commercials except in posh magazines or during the holidays. Contrast with sodas, beer, and co. No marketing needs to be involved, except to promote this or that particular brand of champagne, and that only in the last century.
- leereeves 8y ago
  "Champagne" is actually a brand, it just belongs to a region (of France) instead of a company. > EU law and the laws of most countries reserve the term "Champagne" exclusively for wines that come from this region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_(wine_region) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_(wine_region)
  - daxat_staglatz 8y ago
    It seems strange to call a place of origin a "brand". Is "Ameican" as in (for instance) "American car" a "brand"?
    - toby 8y ago
      You're right, it's not a brand, the correct term is appellation.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    That's nominally (and not a brand, a "Protected Designation of Origin"). We still (in Europe) call champagne anything that's a champagne in nature, regardless of origin, even if its maker can't say so on the label. (The same way perhaps one would say "xerox" even if the machine is from another maker).
- sorokod 8y ago
  You use the word "countless" in a context that is not familiar to me "People seldom get to even see champagne commercials" 10 seconds of googling: https://productplacementblog.com/tag/champagnes-and-sparkling-wines/ https://productplacementblog.com/tag/champagnes-and-sparklin...
  - filleduchaos 8y ago
    Product placement and commercials are different things - if we're counting product placement, champagne would be less than a drop in the sea of scenes with people consuming soda on TV.
LoSboccacc 8y ago
There's a lot of different wines that go under the champagne moniker because that denominates the origin region. Sugar content vary wildly between labels and with that the taste. A lot of people whom don't like wine do like champagne because of the sugar overwhelming much of the other acid tones, and call it "fruity". Also tannis contents vary a lot between bottles which can cause varying reaction to taste and enjoyment, up and including migraine. With all that I mean there's a chance that a champagne/wine of your liking is out there but it's hard to find because labels prefer to talk about flavors and notes instead of giving out useful information
nemo44x 8y ago
I love it. Champagne pairs well with shell fish and in particular with raw oysters. However, bad champagne (bubbly in general) or flat champagne is not very enjoyable. You don’t need to spend a lot but cheap stuff that’s too sweet (and isn’t Demi Sec) is pretty awful. There’s a true craft to making good bubbles.

I don’t know. It’s not really a fad.

I used to love the stuff, now it gives me terrible acid indigestion and I don't care for the taste anymore either. Each to their own I guess, but I agree that "universal appeal" is overblown.

coldtea 8y ago

You don't like it. Countless others do. Marketing is more the case with sugared water (ie.e. sodas, that actually spends billions in advertising each year), than with champagne, which is not a single-brand product but tons of different producers, and that was popular way before modern mass marketing was a thing. People seldom get to even see champagne commercials except in posh magazines or during the holidays. Contrast with sodas, beer, and co. No marketing needs to be involved, except to promote this or that particular brand of champagne, and that only in the last century.

leereeves 8y ago
"Champagne" is actually a brand, it just belongs to a region (of France) instead of a company. > EU law and the laws of most countries reserve the term "Champagne" exclusively for wines that come from this region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_(wine_region) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_(wine_region)
- daxat_staglatz 8y ago
  It seems strange to call a place of origin a "brand". Is "Ameican" as in (for instance) "American car" a "brand"?
  - toby 8y ago
    You're right, it's not a brand, the correct term is appellation.
- coldtea 8y ago
  That's nominally (and not a brand, a "Protected Designation of Origin"). We still (in Europe) call champagne anything that's a champagne in nature, regardless of origin, even if its maker can't say so on the label. (The same way perhaps one would say "xerox" even if the machine is from another maker).
sorokod 8y ago
You use the word "countless" in a context that is not familiar to me "People seldom get to even see champagne commercials" 10 seconds of googling: https://productplacementblog.com/tag/champagnes-and-sparkling-wines/ https://productplacementblog.com/tag/champagnes-and-sparklin...
- filleduchaos 8y ago
  Product placement and commercials are different things - if we're counting product placement, champagne would be less than a drop in the sea of scenes with people consuming soda on TV.

LoSboccacc 8y ago

There's a lot of different wines that go under the champagne moniker because that denominates the origin region. Sugar content vary wildly between labels and with that the taste. A lot of people whom don't like wine do like champagne because of the sugar overwhelming much of the other acid tones, and call it "fruity". Also tannis contents vary a lot between bottles which can cause varying reaction to taste and enjoyment, up and including migraine. With all that I mean there's a chance that a champagne/wine of your liking is out there but it's hard to find because labels prefer to talk about flavors and notes instead of giving out useful information

nemo44x 8y ago

I love it. Champagne pairs well with shell fish and in particular with raw oysters. However, bad champagne (bubbly in general) or flat champagne is not very enjoyable. You don’t need to spend a lot but cheap stuff that’s too sweet (and isn’t Demi Sec) is pretty awful. There’s a true craft to making good bubbles.