Maybe I'm not reading correctly, but you keep on roaring on, as if you are saying something completely different than the comments you're replying to. Please re

Maybe I'm not reading correctly, but you keep on roaring on, as if you are saying something completely different than the comments you're replying to. Please re-read. We are actually saying the same things. No one is denying that there's more of certain kinds of fraud in China. No one is disagreeing with you that Rule of Law works a lot better in the US, nor has anyone suggested that personal relationships work better than Rule of Law. All I'm saying -- and this is something I go on about consistently -- is that cross cultural differences are commonly seen as differences in kind, when they are actually differences in degree. I don't think you are thinking clearly and really understanding the terms you are using if you interpret a "bribery market in corruption" as some kind of "libertarian wonderland." No libertarian worth listening to would advocate for an environment without accountability and rule of law. You've got things so near to 180 degrees turned around, it's a bit of a wonder and maybe a wee bit worrying. (And your culture point makes the same logical mistake in reverse, assuming that since one chinese woman told a white lie and her husband was truthful that you can extrapolate honesty to a whole population. Again, frequency matters!) No one actually says the things you're trying to put into other people's mouths. There, you're merely displaying your biases and what axes you're grinding. All I can offer is a factual account of my own anecdotal experience. (In other words, I'm trying to have a nuanced discussion here, while you seem to be operating on the assumption that everyone's polarized at either extreme.)