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What makes it fraud, what makes them calling themselves a lawyer not valid, if not the law?

• gambiting 8y ago
  Fraud is lying for financial gain. Lying for its own sake is not. You can say and pretend you are a lawyer as much as you like, but only as long as you don't do it to decieve someone for money.
  • throwaway2048 8y ago
    I read become a lawyer in 8 hours the howto book, am i still committing fraud?
    • not_kurt_godel 8y ago
      Yes.
      • throwaway2048 8y ago
        So its almost like there is still a legal standard for what a lawyer is
        • gambiting 8y ago
          I'm not sure what your point is. That's exactly what we are saying - there is a legal standard for actually being a lawyer. But, we are also saying there shouldn't be any repercusions for someone just saying that they are a lawyer in any non-financial, non-professional context. If you go out and say to someone "hey, I'm a lawyer and I am very smart" then this shouldn't be illegal in any way or form, just like saying you are a pope or Bonaparte isn't - you're just making an idiot out of yourself. As long as you don't go and act as a lawyer(try to represent people for money for instance) then knock yourself out. This should be double obvious seeing as we're on the internet, where you can say you are a noble-winning physicist or a NASA engineer and without a way to verify it it matters nothing. It is scummy, immoral, unfair to lie about it? Of course it is. But it shouldn't be illegal.