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I don't think you lose your right to complain, even if you knowingly purchased a home that has a negative externality that you'd like to see removed. If we liv

I don't think you lose your right to complain, even if you knowingly purchased a home that has a negative externality that you'd like to see removed. If we lived by that logic, places would steadily become worse since complaints would only be valid if you lived there before a change took place. Edit: removed my analogy because that's not really the point of my comment. Edit: would sure like to hear from others about why they disagree and why they are down-voting this.

leetcrew 8y ago
the pool analogy is a bit absurd, but similar things can and do happen. for example, if your private driveway connects two public roads and you don't actively prevent the public from exploiting that connectivity, eventually it becomes a public right of way and you lose the legal ability to stop people from using it. > If we lived by that logic, places would steadily become worse since complaints would only be valid if you lived there before a change took place. maybe. or maybe if this were the case it would exert a large enough downward pressure on property values that the current owner would be forced to resolve the issue before selling.
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- porlune 8y ago
  >>> maybe if this were the case it would exert a large enough downward pressure on property values that the current owner would be forced to resolve the issue before selling. This is exactly what the current owners are trying to resolve via their complaints.. which is why their complaints are valid, even if they didn't live at the residence before the issue arose. Edit: Hence the logic holds that if complaints are required to reduce an externality, and you simultaneously hold that complaints are only valid if they are made by residents who have lived there before said externality began, then places would only become worse.
  - leetcrew 8y ago
    first off, I'm not seriously trying to make the point that it's totally illegitimate to complain about things that you knew would happen going in. but by "current owner" I meant the person who owned the property before the annoying circumstance began.
    - porlune 8y ago
      I think we can both agree that would have been ideal, but also far from the common case, which is why this is becoming an issue and might also contribute to an overall decline in home ownership. If there is uncertainty in the marketplace that is.

leetcrew 8y ago

the pool analogy is a bit absurd, but similar things can and do happen. for example, if your private driveway connects two public roads and you don't actively prevent the public from exploiting that connectivity, eventually it becomes a public right of way and you lose the legal ability to stop people from using it. > If we lived by that logic, places would steadily become worse since complaints would only be valid if you lived there before a change took place. maybe. or maybe if this were the case it would exert a large enough downward pressure on property values that the current owner would be forced to resolve the issue before selling.

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porlune 8y ago
>>> maybe if this were the case it would exert a large enough downward pressure on property values that the current owner would be forced to resolve the issue before selling. This is exactly what the current owners are trying to resolve via their complaints.. which is why their complaints are valid, even if they didn't live at the residence before the issue arose. Edit: Hence the logic holds that if complaints are required to reduce an externality, and you simultaneously hold that complaints are only valid if they are made by residents who have lived there before said externality began, then places would only become worse.
- leetcrew 8y ago
  first off, I'm not seriously trying to make the point that it's totally illegitimate to complain about things that you knew would happen going in. but by "current owner" I meant the person who owned the property before the annoying circumstance began.
  - porlune 8y ago
    I think we can both agree that would have been ideal, but also far from the common case, which is why this is becoming an issue and might also contribute to an overall decline in home ownership. If there is uncertainty in the marketplace that is.