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If you're interviewing for some core, low level algorithm development then fair enough but I suspect if that's the case you could come up with something a littl

If you're interviewing for some core, low level algorithm development then fair enough but I suspect if that's the case you could come up with something a little closer to the real life domain. It's not that I think the question is too complicated, just not the best marker. In my mind, more relevant questions are ones that demonstrate real life experience in the field. For example, populating a tree of objects in a high level language like Java from a DB where the tree of objects are stored as many to many relationships. You'd be surprised how many times I've run across production code which does this via SQL calls inside nested loops. This whole infatuation with algorithm questions like you'd find in SICP might be good for new grads but misses the mark for Senior level engineers.

kronin 8y ago
I asked a candidate to implement an algorithm that reverses a string. I don't see that as a complicated problem. It's literally a for loop, and based on how they choose to implement it you can ask about implications of append vs. prepend, etc. I didn't ask them to implement dijkstra's algorithm, or even something as "hard" as breadth-first or depth-first search (which I feel any senior that deals with trees should be able to do). It's a marker of this... Can the candidate solve a basic problem? Once they solve it, can they explain their solution? Do they understand the memory/time tradeoffs they chose? Do they know whether the code they wrote is thread-safe? If you don't feel a senior engineer should be able to answer those questions, to a very basic problem, how do you expect them to tackle something more complex?
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- 0x445442 8y ago
  What I'm interested in from a senior engineer is how many systems they've designed, implemented, deployed to production and supported in their careers and what their specific roles were in those projects. If I can't get an idea from their resume I wouldn't contact them for an interview. As for the interview itself, well I've never needed to ask someone to reverse a string to determine if they're going to be of value with the criteria mentioned above. But to be fair I've never worked on a project where implementing StringUtils.reverse() was required. If I were interviewing someone to work on Apache Commons or the JDK then I suppose that would be a relevant question.
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  - jodrellblank 8y ago
    Oh come on, argue the strongest part of their argument, would you, instead of nitpicking over string reverse. They've repeatedly, laboriously, explained that reversing a string isn't the relevant part to be focusing on. What I'm interested in from a senior engineer is how many systems they've designed, implemented, deployed to production and supported in their careers and what their specific roles were in those projects. If I can't get an idea from their resume I wouldn't contact them for an interview. And when their resume looks good and claims they are an expert, and you call them in and talk to them and they say they are an expert, and you start by opening a warmup question on the most basic levels of their expertise and they totally flunk it on multiple levels - unable to even handle the situation with tact or diplomacy in any way, are you still going to trust what they say about the systems they've "deployed and supported"?
- dave1999x 8y ago
  Did you know in .Net strings are immutable? Neither did the guy at Google when he asked me to do some "in place" string fiddling algorithm or that guy at Amazon who wanted to reverse the strings in a sentence (yes there's a trick to that one found in some 80s programming book)

kronin 8y ago

I asked a candidate to implement an algorithm that reverses a string. I don't see that as a complicated problem. It's literally a for loop, and based on how they choose to implement it you can ask about implications of append vs. prepend, etc. I didn't ask them to implement dijkstra's algorithm, or even something as "hard" as breadth-first or depth-first search (which I feel any senior that deals with trees should be able to do). It's a marker of this... Can the candidate solve a basic problem? Once they solve it, can they explain their solution? Do they understand the memory/time tradeoffs they chose? Do they know whether the code they wrote is thread-safe? If you don't feel a senior engineer should be able to answer those questions, to a very basic problem, how do you expect them to tackle something more complex?

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0x445442 8y ago
What I'm interested in from a senior engineer is how many systems they've designed, implemented, deployed to production and supported in their careers and what their specific roles were in those projects. If I can't get an idea from their resume I wouldn't contact them for an interview. As for the interview itself, well I've never needed to ask someone to reverse a string to determine if they're going to be of value with the criteria mentioned above. But to be fair I've never worked on a project where implementing StringUtils.reverse() was required. If I were interviewing someone to work on Apache Commons or the JDK then I suppose that would be a relevant question.
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- jodrellblank 8y ago
  Oh come on, argue the strongest part of their argument, would you, instead of nitpicking over string reverse. They've repeatedly, laboriously, explained that reversing a string isn't the relevant part to be focusing on. What I'm interested in from a senior engineer is how many systems they've designed, implemented, deployed to production and supported in their careers and what their specific roles were in those projects. If I can't get an idea from their resume I wouldn't contact them for an interview. And when their resume looks good and claims they are an expert, and you call them in and talk to them and they say they are an expert, and you start by opening a warmup question on the most basic levels of their expertise and they totally flunk it on multiple levels - unable to even handle the situation with tact or diplomacy in any way, are you still going to trust what they say about the systems they've "deployed and supported"?
dave1999x 8y ago
Did you know in .Net strings are immutable? Neither did the guy at Google when he asked me to do some "in place" string fiddling algorithm or that guy at Amazon who wanted to reverse the strings in a sentence (yes there's a trick to that one found in some 80s programming book)