> The quality of the outcome really depends on the participants. As they say, blaming the humans is easy. But it’s not five why’s. Agreed. I think it’s a case

> The quality of the outcome really depends on the participants. As they say, blaming the humans is easy. But it’s not five why’s. Agreed. I think it’s a case for running a Joy Driven Development operation first, and looking to organizational responsibility first (versus looking for somewhere to cast blame), but practically, that probably too utopian to bear out in practice. No reason not to keep it in mind, though.