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Having had a 3 hour round trip commute time (South Bay to SF), and a 10 minute round trip commute time (3 blocks away), I think that my current time of about 1

Having had a 3 hour round trip commute time (South Bay to SF), and a 10 minute round trip commute time (3 blocks away), I think that my current time of about 1 hour is the most desirable. The long commute took a toll for obvious reasons, but even with the short convenient walking commute, I found it led to difficulties maintaining a healthy work/life balance. An hour total commute (30 minutes each way) is generally enough to keep work life separated from personal life, while not being too much burden, in my opinion.

enb 8y ago
I'll second this, as it has been my experience also. Having a young family I thought a 5 minute commute would be ideal, but found the half hour made me a more tolerable person.
- Retric 8y ago
  If you need time to unwind, take it in the evening before you get home. You still save time in the morning and can use that unwind time to exercise.
  - heavenlyblue 8y ago
    Exactly: just take a walk for 30 minutes. I mean, it's certainly better that you can use that time for something else, even if you don't want to go home immediately - rather than being forced to commute.
empath75 8y ago
I’ve got a 40 minute commute to work on the train and having two kids at home I absolutely love having the time completely free to read or think.
warent 8y ago
I had the same 3 hour commute except from SF to South Bay. It's absolutely soul sucking and the burden is unbearable. Ever since then I won't even subject myself to an hour commute let alone 10 minutes commute. My work for the foreseeable future is exclusively remote. Perhaps the concept of "commuting" will start to blur as self-driving cars and telecommuting become a more realistic part of remaining productive while still connecting with your coworkers.
- solveit 8y ago
  I can't wait until we get fully self-driving cars that we can treat like moving workspaces.
  - daveFNbuck 8y ago
    Everyone I know who has a 3-hour commute already does that with the train or shuttle.
leesec 8y ago
Having had a 45 minute walk to work ( no car ), and now a 2 minute drive (lazy and it's winter). I'd say the 2 minute drive is most desirable. I can decompress at home however I want and I'll take the extra 250 hours of leisure a year please and thank you. I don't have kids or a family tho.
- AstralStorm 8y ago
  2 minute drive? What? It takes longer than that to get into the car and get it out of parking. My bet is that it's at best 10 minutes. Which would mean it's at most 0.5 km if the 2 minutes is actually drive time. Which means by the time you got into a car you'd be there on foot. Going that distance takes 10 minutes for a reasonably fit person. Unless your car goes some 300 km/h... The usual rule of thumb is that going by car is about 6x faster for urban conditions and 20x for long roads.
black-tea 8y ago
I've never understood people who say you can live too close to work. My best commute was a 5 minute walk. I lived in the city centre so everything was close to me. Why would it affect my work/life balance? When I didn't want to work I just did other things. Maybe what is meant is if you live closer to work at the expense of living further away from everything else. That makes sense. But living close to everything was great (shame the job itself sucked or I would have stayed).
- thanatos_dem 8y ago
  The company I was at at the time was very startup-y. Fast paced, high stress. People in the office very late, and gave a stipend for living walking distance to the office. The result was a perception by myself and many others that we needed to stay later, and could because hey, home is right around the corner. I’m sure some people could manage that better, but a lot of the company, myself included, could not.
tokai 8y ago
Which kind of difficulties? I have a 6 minuets commute and I find it wonderful.
ken 8y ago
I've had commutes as far as 35+ miles / 1 hour, and as short as 1 block, and I can report that shorter is always better. Once you walk outside and cross the street, you're going to work. You don't say what "difficulties" you had but I suspect that a difficulty solved by making something arbitrarily take 30 minutes longer actually has some other root cause. Nobody complains that sending email is 30 minutes faster than walking to the post office. You don't say how you're commuting, but a sizable community of people commuting by car has a real burden on society.
- thanatos_dem 8y ago
  When it was South Bay to SF I commuted by driving to Caltrain, taking the train up, and then walking across half of SF. Now I bike most days, unless the weather is crummy or the state is on fire again. The work life balance issue was definitely partially the fault of the culture of the company I was at at the time, but living so close made it much more difficult to avoid. And yeah, that’s an issue of willpower in part, and is the same reason I am not able to work remote or from home. But I don’t think that’s an issue unique to me.

enb 8y ago

I'll second this, as it has been my experience also. Having a young family I thought a 5 minute commute would be ideal, but found the half hour made me a more tolerable person.

Retric 8y ago
If you need time to unwind, take it in the evening before you get home. You still save time in the morning and can use that unwind time to exercise.
- heavenlyblue 8y ago
  Exactly: just take a walk for 30 minutes. I mean, it's certainly better that you can use that time for something else, even if you don't want to go home immediately - rather than being forced to commute.

empath75 8y ago

I’ve got a 40 minute commute to work on the train and having two kids at home I absolutely love having the time completely free to read or think.

warent 8y ago

I had the same 3 hour commute except from SF to South Bay. It's absolutely soul sucking and the burden is unbearable. Ever since then I won't even subject myself to an hour commute let alone 10 minutes commute. My work for the foreseeable future is exclusively remote. Perhaps the concept of "commuting" will start to blur as self-driving cars and telecommuting become a more realistic part of remaining productive while still connecting with your coworkers.

solveit 8y ago
I can't wait until we get fully self-driving cars that we can treat like moving workspaces.
- daveFNbuck 8y ago
  Everyone I know who has a 3-hour commute already does that with the train or shuttle.

leesec 8y ago

Having had a 45 minute walk to work ( no car ), and now a 2 minute drive (lazy and it's winter). I'd say the 2 minute drive is most desirable. I can decompress at home however I want and I'll take the extra 250 hours of leisure a year please and thank you. I don't have kids or a family tho.

AstralStorm 8y ago
2 minute drive? What? It takes longer than that to get into the car and get it out of parking. My bet is that it's at best 10 minutes. Which would mean it's at most 0.5 km if the 2 minutes is actually drive time. Which means by the time you got into a car you'd be there on foot. Going that distance takes 10 minutes for a reasonably fit person. Unless your car goes some 300 km/h... The usual rule of thumb is that going by car is about 6x faster for urban conditions and 20x for long roads.

black-tea 8y ago

I've never understood people who say you can live too close to work. My best commute was a 5 minute walk. I lived in the city centre so everything was close to me. Why would it affect my work/life balance? When I didn't want to work I just did other things. Maybe what is meant is if you live closer to work at the expense of living further away from everything else. That makes sense. But living close to everything was great (shame the job itself sucked or I would have stayed).

thanatos_dem 8y ago
The company I was at at the time was very startup-y. Fast paced, high stress. People in the office very late, and gave a stipend for living walking distance to the office. The result was a perception by myself and many others that we needed to stay later, and could because hey, home is right around the corner. I’m sure some people could manage that better, but a lot of the company, myself included, could not.

tokai 8y ago

Which kind of difficulties? I have a 6 minuets commute and I find it wonderful.

ken 8y ago

I've had commutes as far as 35+ miles / 1 hour, and as short as 1 block, and I can report that shorter is always better. Once you walk outside and cross the street, you're going to work. You don't say what "difficulties" you had but I suspect that a difficulty solved by making something arbitrarily take 30 minutes longer actually has some other root cause. Nobody complains that sending email is 30 minutes faster than walking to the post office. You don't say how you're commuting, but a sizable community of people commuting by car has a real burden on society.

thanatos_dem 8y ago
When it was South Bay to SF I commuted by driving to Caltrain, taking the train up, and then walking across half of SF. Now I bike most days, unless the weather is crummy or the state is on fire again. The work life balance issue was definitely partially the fault of the culture of the company I was at at the time, but living so close made it much more difficult to avoid. And yeah, that’s an issue of willpower in part, and is the same reason I am not able to work remote or from home. But I don’t think that’s an issue unique to me.