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> This is what happens when you treat IT like a cost center and don't provide the necessary funds to tackle technical debt and keep your services up and running

> This is what happens when you treat IT like a cost center and don't provide the necessary funds to tackle technical debt and keep your services up and running: Especially now with cordcutting becoming the norm and traditional cable subscription number dropping, large providers are scrambling to find ways to extract profit. With the rise of streaming, peering arrangements are more lopsided than ever and ISPs are actually having to pay for their own internet access. Because of this we're going to start seeing a lot more data caps, neglecting basic network infrastructure, and other tactics to extract as much profit as possible from customers.

mr_toad 8y ago
> With the rise of streaming, peering arrangements are more lopsided than ever and ISPs are actually having to pay for their own internet access. Don’t most ISPs cache this sort of content closer to their customers? Netflix at least offers to install hardware that does this.
- scurvy 8y ago
  YouTube and Netflix cache boxes are important for smaller ISP's. Their cache performance can literally make or break the monthly P&L. That said, I haven't heard about other OTT services offering a caching appliance. And there are more and more OTT streaming services coming. It's great from a consumer perspective, but it's going to be challenging for smaller players.
  - wbl 8y ago
    Solution is to get some datacenters on your network as well. I'm not sure why that didn't happen before.
    - scurvy 8y ago
      How would a rural WISP "get some datacenters" on its network? Sorry, I'm not grasping your previous comment.
      - wbl 8y ago
        If you have the problem that peering is getting very one-sided, the solution is to get the other side as well. So a rural ISP should try to expand into an area with cheap power and offer low-cost hosting and bandwidth to attract servers.
        scurvy 8y ago
        Hard to do that when everyone runs everything in the cloud. That's a very tough market to crack into.
        tylerl 8y ago
        This is downright silly. The bulk of bandwidth is associated with a select few destinations that aren't going to put their datacenters behind a consumer isp under any circumstances. But many do offer caching options that allow content to be sourced inside the ISP.
  - xp3ll3d 8y ago
    Moving towards decentralised internet infrastructure such as https://ipfs.io https://ipfs.io could help with this. ISPs setting up IPFS caches for their customers could save a LOT of peering bandwidth.
tracker1 8y ago
I'm not sure... hell WB will have 3 services... WB/CBS/DC-Universe etc... Netflix, Hulu, some TV alternative (Hulu Live, Sling, etc). It all adds up, and may not be a value. I swear, if the GF wasn't hooked on Bravo, I'd give it all up and just pirate everything again. I honestly do some shows just because it's easier to use my seedbox and grab everything new that I watch once a week or so, and work through the new episodes.

mr_toad 8y ago

> With the rise of streaming, peering arrangements are more lopsided than ever and ISPs are actually having to pay for their own internet access. Don’t most ISPs cache this sort of content closer to their customers? Netflix at least offers to install hardware that does this.

scurvy 8y ago
YouTube and Netflix cache boxes are important for smaller ISP's. Their cache performance can literally make or break the monthly P&L. That said, I haven't heard about other OTT services offering a caching appliance. And there are more and more OTT streaming services coming. It's great from a consumer perspective, but it's going to be challenging for smaller players.
- wbl 8y ago
  Solution is to get some datacenters on your network as well. I'm not sure why that didn't happen before.
  - scurvy 8y ago
    How would a rural WISP "get some datacenters" on its network? Sorry, I'm not grasping your previous comment.
    - wbl 8y ago
      If you have the problem that peering is getting very one-sided, the solution is to get the other side as well. So a rural ISP should try to expand into an area with cheap power and offer low-cost hosting and bandwidth to attract servers.
      - scurvy 8y ago
        Hard to do that when everyone runs everything in the cloud. That's a very tough market to crack into.
      - tylerl 8y ago
        This is downright silly. The bulk of bandwidth is associated with a select few destinations that aren't going to put their datacenters behind a consumer isp under any circumstances. But many do offer caching options that allow content to be sourced inside the ISP.
- xp3ll3d 8y ago
  Moving towards decentralised internet infrastructure such as https://ipfs.io https://ipfs.io could help with this. ISPs setting up IPFS caches for their customers could save a LOT of peering bandwidth.

tracker1 8y ago

I'm not sure... hell WB will have 3 services... WB/CBS/DC-Universe etc... Netflix, Hulu, some TV alternative (Hulu Live, Sling, etc). It all adds up, and may not be a value. I swear, if the GF wasn't hooked on Bravo, I'd give it all up and just pirate everything again. I honestly do some shows just because it's easier to use my seedbox and grab everything new that I watch once a week or so, and work through the new episodes.