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This is why I feel that the solution to most of the modern ailments in development is to just put Lua everywhere. All the great stuff of C, and all the new-sch

This is why I feel that the solution to most of the modern ailments in development is to just put Lua everywhere. All the great stuff of C, and all the new-school shit too. If you do this, it'll seem soon enough that the Javascript nightmare was just a dream. Takes balls though.

cblum 8y ago
I wish! One of the coolest projects I've worked on used Lua. We wrote the core in C++ and then everything else on top of it in Lua.
sifoobar 8y ago
I do the same thing with a twist [0], since I'm not very fond of some of Lua's design choices. Lack of a decent type system, the table mess, etc. And I think Forth and Lisp make better glue languages. Can't stop smiling these days when I see people fighting over which language will rule them all. I spent tens of years searching for that language myself. Time I would rather have spent solving real problems using the best tools. [0] https://gitlab.com/sifoo/snigl https://gitlab.com/sifoo/snigl
bogomipz 8y ago
What would some examples be of Lua addressing modern ailments? I'm also curious to hear why it's such a good fit for those ailments. Thanks.
- fit2rule 8y ago
  Its not Lua specifically addressing modern ailments, its the attitude that taking full control to put the same common codebase on as many of the target platforms as possible can be profitable, in light of the vendor mess which is, presumably, what we're talking about here. It can be a very disturbing thing to realise what a few tweaks here and there to package.json might do to ones love life. Lua is a great, easy to use, easy to apply, language -- with a healthy framework ecosystem, and it is very easy to put it to use in a legacy code-base, since its C-based, and we all know that C still makes the world go around. However, its not the fact of Lua, but the fact of 'put our own VM everywhere' that wins, imho.
romeisendcoming 8y ago
Lua? People still use that? How about the whole lmod debacle?

cblum 8y ago

I wish! One of the coolest projects I've worked on used Lua. We wrote the core in C++ and then everything else on top of it in Lua.

sifoobar 8y ago

I do the same thing with a twist [0], since I'm not very fond of some of Lua's design choices. Lack of a decent type system, the table mess, etc. And I think Forth and Lisp make better glue languages. Can't stop smiling these days when I see people fighting over which language will rule them all. I spent tens of years searching for that language myself. Time I would rather have spent solving real problems using the best tools. [0] https://gitlab.com/sifoo/snigl https://gitlab.com/sifoo/snigl

bogomipz 8y ago

What would some examples be of Lua addressing modern ailments? I'm also curious to hear why it's such a good fit for those ailments. Thanks.

fit2rule 8y ago
Its not Lua specifically addressing modern ailments, its the attitude that taking full control to put the same common codebase on as many of the target platforms as possible can be profitable, in light of the vendor mess which is, presumably, what we're talking about here. It can be a very disturbing thing to realise what a few tweaks here and there to package.json might do to ones love life. Lua is a great, easy to use, easy to apply, language -- with a healthy framework ecosystem, and it is very easy to put it to use in a legacy code-base, since its C-based, and we all know that C still makes the world go around. However, its not the fact of Lua, but the fact of 'put our own VM everywhere' that wins, imho.

romeisendcoming 8y ago

Lua? People still use that? How about the whole lmod debacle?