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Facial recognition to identify passengers on public transit or anyone caught on a police officer’s body camera is mentioned in the article. Everyone else is not

Facial recognition to identify passengers on public transit or anyone caught on a police officer’s body camera is mentioned in the article. Everyone else is not doing that. Everyone else does not have concentration camps and re-education facilities for Muslims and other rural cultures in mainland China. You are delusional to suggest that China is a victim of the free press. It’s the other way around.

simplecomplex 8y ago
UK has been doing the same thing for the last 10 years... https://www.wired.co.uk/article/face-recognition-police-uk-south-wales-met-notting-hill-carnival https://www.wired.co.uk/article/face-recognition-police-uk-s...
- porphyrogene 8y ago
  Your ability to be blind to a challenge to your convictions is impressive in its own way.
  - simplecomplex 8y ago
    What conviction? China is an authoritarian state, I’m not disputing that at all. My only conviction is that these articles are upvoted based on anti-Chinese sentiment, not on any real basis for learning something. Especially considering tech like drones and facial recognition aren’t being used by China any differently than how other countries like US, UK, etc. use them.
    - porphyrogene 8y ago
      The US, UK and other countries are using facial recognition to round up and re-educate ethnic groups? You have invented a lie of convenience and sold it to yourself. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/asia/china-uighur-muslim-detention-camp.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/asia/china-uighur-m...
  - dang 8y ago
    Personal attacks, such as you posted here and in your comment upthread, are not allowed on HN and will get you banned here. Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome either. Please edit these things out of your posts to HN and follow the site guidelines, even when someone else is breaking them. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - porphyrogene 8y ago
      My attack was neither personal nor "nationalistic". It is against the HN guidelines to respond to comments that you find inappropriate: > Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.
cronix 8y ago
> Everyone else is not doing that. The US is. Let's not pretend that it's not happening, or try to justify it because a "good" gov't is doing it vs a "bad" one. Freedom, and rights, are becoming more and more of an illusion. For some reason, we've become conditioned to think it's only bad when the other guy is doing it and we're justified, somehow. It's wrong, period, and the outcome will not justify the means. It never does. https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/22/amazon-is-selling-facial-recognition-technology-to-u-s-law-enforcement/ https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/22/amazon-is-selling-facial-... https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17054740/palantir-predictive-policing-tool-new-orleans-nopd https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17054740/palantir-predict... https://theintercept.com/2018/05/11/predictive-policing-surveillance-los-angeles/ https://theintercept.com/2018/05/11/predictive-policing-surv... https://www.apnews.com/b11e4bca11e548d3af7a63f24e348c6f https://www.apnews.com/b11e4bca11e548d3af7a63f24e348c6f

simplecomplex 8y ago

UK has been doing the same thing for the last 10 years... https://www.wired.co.uk/article/face-recognition-police-uk-south-wales-met-notting-hill-carnival https://www.wired.co.uk/article/face-recognition-police-uk-s...

porphyrogene 8y ago
Your ability to be blind to a challenge to your convictions is impressive in its own way.
- simplecomplex 8y ago
  What conviction? China is an authoritarian state, I’m not disputing that at all. My only conviction is that these articles are upvoted based on anti-Chinese sentiment, not on any real basis for learning something. Especially considering tech like drones and facial recognition aren’t being used by China any differently than how other countries like US, UK, etc. use them.
  - porphyrogene 8y ago
    The US, UK and other countries are using facial recognition to round up and re-educate ethnic groups? You have invented a lie of convenience and sold it to yourself. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/asia/china-uighur-muslim-detention-camp.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/asia/china-uighur-m...
- dang 8y ago
  Personal attacks, such as you posted here and in your comment upthread, are not allowed on HN and will get you banned here. Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome either. Please edit these things out of your posts to HN and follow the site guidelines, even when someone else is breaking them. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - porphyrogene 8y ago
    My attack was neither personal nor "nationalistic". It is against the HN guidelines to respond to comments that you find inappropriate: > Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.

cronix 8y ago

> Everyone else is not doing that. The US is. Let's not pretend that it's not happening, or try to justify it because a "good" gov't is doing it vs a "bad" one. Freedom, and rights, are becoming more and more of an illusion. For some reason, we've become conditioned to think it's only bad when the other guy is doing it and we're justified, somehow. It's wrong, period, and the outcome will not justify the means. It never does. https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/22/amazon-is-selling-facial-recognition-technology-to-u-s-law-enforcement/ https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/22/amazon-is-selling-facial-... https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17054740/palantir-predictive-policing-tool-new-orleans-nopd https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17054740/palantir-predict... https://theintercept.com/2018/05/11/predictive-policing-surveillance-los-angeles/ https://theintercept.com/2018/05/11/predictive-policing-surv... https://www.apnews.com/b11e4bca11e548d3af7a63f24e348c6f https://www.apnews.com/b11e4bca11e548d3af7a63f24e348c6f