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I know, blue states are subsidizing the red states. Even California pays more per capita to feds than Texas.

justtopost 8y ago
Not when adjusted for spending. But the numbers here are just a standin for your personal politics. That is not helpful or constructive either.
- matchbok 8y ago
  It is correct that, as a whole, blue states are wealthier, stronger, and healthier. We pay more per-person in taxes whereas most red states consume more federal dollars.
  - joejerryronnie 8y ago
    Blue states have a higher ceiling (i.e. wealthier but more income inequality) while red states have a higher floor (i.e. poorer but less income inequality). Maybe we need more purple states. It's hard to strike the right balance between social liberalism and fiscal conservatism. Edit: After looking at the stats, it appears that income inequality is generally higher across the Southern US than the Northern US, with CA and NY as notable exceptions. Income inequality is growing fastest in the Western and Midwestern US.
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    - nickthemagicman 8y ago
      This is not an accurate statement.
SamReidHughes 8y ago
That's just because they have a bunch of rich people and corporations. Random Joe #23 doesn't deserve any credit for that.
dmm 8y ago
> blue states are subsidizing the red states. Two things should be kept in mind when discussing this topic, The US, a large economically diverse nation with a single currency, only works because of fiscal transfers. Even the economists who engineered the Eurozone knew this, they just hoped a single currency would bring greater unity that would eventually lead to fiscal transfers. The analysis that come to this conclusion all include social security and medicare. I think that's pretty misleading. A big group of my friends all attended public schools and universities in a red/purple midwestern state and after graduation all moved to the coasts. The coastal states get educated workers and leave behind retiring parents.
- SamReidHughes 8y ago
  Technically, the US worked just fine, before there were fiscal transfers. What's really the case here is that a social safety net in the presence of migration can't be done on a state by state basis. It has to be national, which invariably results in net flows between states. A lot of measures of interstate transfers mistakenly treat federal spending as a transfer. Really it's trade. A small percentage could be counted as a transfer.

Not when adjusted for spending. But the numbers here are just a standin for your personal politics. That is not helpful or constructive either.

matchbok 8y ago
It is correct that, as a whole, blue states are wealthier, stronger, and healthier. We pay more per-person in taxes whereas most red states consume more federal dollars.
- joejerryronnie 8y ago
  Blue states have a higher ceiling (i.e. wealthier but more income inequality) while red states have a higher floor (i.e. poorer but less income inequality). Maybe we need more purple states. It's hard to strike the right balance between social liberalism and fiscal conservatism. Edit: After looking at the stats, it appears that income inequality is generally higher across the Southern US than the Northern US, with CA and NY as notable exceptions. Income inequality is growing fastest in the Western and Midwestern US.
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  - nickthemagicman 8y ago
    This is not an accurate statement.

SamReidHughes 8y ago

That's just because they have a bunch of rich people and corporations. Random Joe #23 doesn't deserve any credit for that.

dmm 8y ago

> blue states are subsidizing the red states. Two things should be kept in mind when discussing this topic, The US, a large economically diverse nation with a single currency, only works because of fiscal transfers. Even the economists who engineered the Eurozone knew this, they just hoped a single currency would bring greater unity that would eventually lead to fiscal transfers. The analysis that come to this conclusion all include social security and medicare. I think that's pretty misleading. A big group of my friends all attended public schools and universities in a red/purple midwestern state and after graduation all moved to the coasts. The coastal states get educated workers and leave behind retiring parents.

SamReidHughes 8y ago
Technically, the US worked just fine, before there were fiscal transfers. What's really the case here is that a social safety net in the presence of migration can't be done on a state by state basis. It has to be national, which invariably results in net flows between states. A lot of measures of interstate transfers mistakenly treat federal spending as a transfer. Really it's trade. A small percentage could be counted as a transfer.