Actually that's kind of an interesting point. Don't know why you are getting down voted for bringing up an important dynamic about dictatorships in the nuclear

Actually that's kind of an interesting point. Don't know why you are getting down voted for bringing up an important dynamic about dictatorships in the nuclear family. But is it the cause or is it the effect? Do some parents not know how to communicate positively and so they just shout the kids down (which still leads to a shouting match, just not a productive one) or do they start out with the ability more or less and then when they use the shouting down technique they find the short-term reward beneficial and it starts to become their go-to tactic to the point where they don't know how to not do it because it has become so automatic and to suddenly start going in the reverse direction would be seen as weak and they just can't have that? It's kind of interesting watching Super Nanny when they have these extreme cases and she makes the parents change tack to more reasonable styles of communication and the kids improve dramatically and quite fast.