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Of all the popular non-functional languages, I think C and D are the ones that sucks less, but D is not as popular, so that leaves us with C.

by sandov 8y ago

mamcx 8y ago
And this is the main problem. C, alike JS, ruin the chances of anything else to take over. Pascal is one that could have been much better to rely on. D is nice. Rust is too, but the chances of them to replace C is like typescript replacing JS. In the other hand, I wish C get allowed to improve much more, and do python2/python3 split (with better handling of the situation, of course), to remove lingering issues, clean the syntax/API, and just add algebraic data types, match and Option<T>, and a good UTF-8 string (the only additions that I think are worthwhile without making C too different). I envision a C-good that transpile to C-classic and slowly take over.
- viraptor 8y ago
  There's a bit of new syntax, but overall it does what you asked for: https://ooc-lang.org/ https://ooc-lang.org/ even compiled down to C It didn't get very popular though.
- naikrovek 8y ago
  While not what you envision, I recommend looking at Go if you haven't. I experience bliss while writing stuff in Go. It is not as fast as C, but it is getting closer with every release. Garbage collection in Go is so fast now that there may as well not be any pause at all. It's worth a look, in my opinion.
  - Rotten194 8y ago
    The lack of generics kills Go for me. I know it's an old rag and they'll never add them, but I just can't get over it. Maybe I should try Rust...
    - naikrovek 8y ago
      C doesn't have generics, either. I was recommending Go to someone that wanted C plus a few things. For me, that's Go. Why does the lack of generics come up all the time?
  - mamcx 8y ago
    I have look at Go. It impress me the first time, specially the CPS stuff. But now I'm working on Rust (apart of F#, python, Swift). Rust is nice, but too strict, and is very hard to be productive on it.

Of all the popular non-functional languages, I think C and D are the ones that sucks less, but D is not as popular, so that leaves us with C.

by sandov 8y ago

Of all the popular non-functional languages, I think C and D are the ones that sucks less, but D is not as popular, so that leaves us with C.

mamcx 8y ago

And this is the main problem. C, alike JS, ruin the chances of anything else to take over. Pascal is one that could have been much better to rely on. D is nice. Rust is too, but the chances of them to replace C is like typescript replacing JS. In the other hand, I wish C get allowed to improve much more, and do python2/python3 split (with better handling of the situation, of course), to remove lingering issues, clean the syntax/API, and just add algebraic data types, match and Option<T>, and a good UTF-8 string (the only additions that I think are worthwhile without making C too different). I envision a C-good that transpile to C-classic and slowly take over.

viraptor 8y ago
There's a bit of new syntax, but overall it does what you asked for: https://ooc-lang.org/ https://ooc-lang.org/ even compiled down to C It didn't get very popular though.
naikrovek 8y ago
While not what you envision, I recommend looking at Go if you haven't. I experience bliss while writing stuff in Go. It is not as fast as C, but it is getting closer with every release. Garbage collection in Go is so fast now that there may as well not be any pause at all. It's worth a look, in my opinion.
- Rotten194 8y ago
  The lack of generics kills Go for me. I know it's an old rag and they'll never add them, but I just can't get over it. Maybe I should try Rust...
  - naikrovek 8y ago
    C doesn't have generics, either. I was recommending Go to someone that wanted C plus a few things. For me, that's Go. Why does the lack of generics come up all the time?
- mamcx 8y ago
  I have look at Go. It impress me the first time, specially the CPS stuff. But now I'm working on Rust (apart of F#, python, Swift). Rust is nice, but too strict, and is very hard to be productive on it.