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So this is about whether or not Dell gave permission? Oh, heaven forbid that someone do something without the blessing of the big corporations! Why, I hesitat

So this is about whether or not Dell gave permission? Oh, heaven forbid that someone do something without the blessing of the big corporations! Why, I hesitate to even mention the name Dell in this very post without first asking them for their permission... The "deceit" here is on the level of "rinse and repeat" instructions on shampoo bottles. The disks contained exactly what customers expected and the "deception" was only in the labeling of the disks. Just because the business seems a bit sleazy does not mean he deserves jail time.

close04 8y ago
Sure... everything is ok until you get a fake. Then it's a problem. Next time you buy any brand just think whether you'd be willing to pay that much or at all knowing it's a fake label and the content might be "98% accurate". Software included. Would a person selling you a fake dollar deserve jail time? Do you need more time to think about what you're saying?
- betterunix2 8y ago
  Except that he was not giving people "fake Windows" or "98% Windows" or anything other than what people were expecting: Windows. It was just that he made a copy without first getting permission. I do not really care if a copy was authorized or not, and I feel no more safe getting authorized copies after seeing things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit
  - close04 8y ago
    Except he was, according to his own emails he couldn't guarantee "his" product was 100% identical to the original. The second major argument that you miss because nobody was next to you to read it aloud to you so you can catch it is that he went to prison for putting fake labels on a physical CD and claiming that object is an original. Most likely because of using an outdated copy of the software and low quality CD blanks (and manufacturing process) to cut costs. Whether you feel safe or not is not the point. At least one person bought that CD at a price (NOT 25c) assuming it was original, "guaranteed" by Dell, and would not have paid the price knowing it's just a fake from a guy in his basement so to speak. And if he wanted to "extend the life of electronics" he would have just given people direct links to the free downloads. But he didn't, he wanted to make money by breaking the law. I'm disturbed that this is so hard to understand for some people. I can only assume none of you have ever achieved something worth using or stealing which is why it's hard to comprehend why someone stealing your name to put on their stolen copy is not cool.

close04 8y ago

Sure... everything is ok until you get a fake. Then it's a problem. Next time you buy any brand just think whether you'd be willing to pay that much or at all knowing it's a fake label and the content might be "98% accurate". Software included. Would a person selling you a fake dollar deserve jail time? Do you need more time to think about what you're saying?

betterunix2 8y ago
Except that he was not giving people "fake Windows" or "98% Windows" or anything other than what people were expecting: Windows. It was just that he made a copy without first getting permission. I do not really care if a copy was authorized or not, and I feel no more safe getting authorized copies after seeing things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit
- close04 8y ago
  Except he was, according to his own emails he couldn't guarantee "his" product was 100% identical to the original. The second major argument that you miss because nobody was next to you to read it aloud to you so you can catch it is that he went to prison for putting fake labels on a physical CD and claiming that object is an original. Most likely because of using an outdated copy of the software and low quality CD blanks (and manufacturing process) to cut costs. Whether you feel safe or not is not the point. At least one person bought that CD at a price (NOT 25c) assuming it was original, "guaranteed" by Dell, and would not have paid the price knowing it's just a fake from a guy in his basement so to speak. And if he wanted to "extend the life of electronics" he would have just given people direct links to the free downloads. But he didn't, he wanted to make money by breaking the law. I'm disturbed that this is so hard to understand for some people. I can only assume none of you have ever achieved something worth using or stealing which is why it's hard to comprehend why someone stealing your name to put on their stolen copy is not cool.