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Is that guy really an experienced developer? He's obviously talented but experience and talent are different things. It sounds like he has less than 10 years un

by guelo 8y ago

Is that guy really an experienced developer? He's obviously talented but experience and talent are different things. It sounds like he has less than 10 years under his belt.

throwaway98121 8y ago
Is 10 years the bar for what counts as an experienced developer? Why is 10 the magic number? I would say someone with 5 years experience could be senior to someone with 10 years under their belt, granted the former worked on the right projects that gave them valuable experience, with some combination of design, understanding trade offs, implementation, and social/management skills managing delivery of their features or taking complexity and simplifying it (both technically and from a requirements perspective). You could work 10 years and not hit those points. I expect someone with 10 years is hands down more experienced than someone with just one year under their belt, but otherwise, looking at how long you’ve been in the industry is kind of meaningless without understanding what it is that you did.
danabramov 8y ago
I’ve been learning programming since 12, got first software job at 18. I’m 26 now. So depends on how you count.
- guelo 8y ago
  And not that many technologies.
  - danabramov 8y ago
    No, not that many. I've worked with C# and .NET ecosystem (WinForms, ASP .NET MVC, NHibernate, EF, MSSQL), later Django/Flask/Python, later Xamarin/Cocoa and Rx, yet later Backbone, AngularJS, React. Haven't worked with low-level stuff at all.
    - guru_meditation 8y ago
      I would say that in this particular domain going from: WinForms -> ASP .NET MVC and then Backbone -> AngularJS -> React (including participating in React development) gave you the kind of exposure and experience you needed for Redux. I think a lot of people reading on here missed this parts and I certainly didn't catch onto this reading your Things I don't Know as of 2018 post or the "Things I do Know" post you linked to.
  - dang 8y ago
    It seems like you were stepping into being personally abrasive here. Please don't do that on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by guelo 8y ago

Is that guy really an experienced developer? He's obviously talented but experience and talent are different things. It sounds like he has less than 10 years under his belt.

throwaway98121 8y ago

Is 10 years the bar for what counts as an experienced developer? Why is 10 the magic number? I would say someone with 5 years experience could be senior to someone with 10 years under their belt, granted the former worked on the right projects that gave them valuable experience, with some combination of design, understanding trade offs, implementation, and social/management skills managing delivery of their features or taking complexity and simplifying it (both technically and from a requirements perspective). You could work 10 years and not hit those points. I expect someone with 10 years is hands down more experienced than someone with just one year under their belt, but otherwise, looking at how long you’ve been in the industry is kind of meaningless without understanding what it is that you did.

danabramov 8y ago

I’ve been learning programming since 12, got first software job at 18. I’m 26 now. So depends on how you count.

guelo 8y ago
And not that many technologies.
- danabramov 8y ago
  No, not that many. I've worked with C# and .NET ecosystem (WinForms, ASP .NET MVC, NHibernate, EF, MSSQL), later Django/Flask/Python, later Xamarin/Cocoa and Rx, yet later Backbone, AngularJS, React. Haven't worked with low-level stuff at all.
  - guru_meditation 8y ago
    I would say that in this particular domain going from: WinForms -> ASP .NET MVC and then Backbone -> AngularJS -> React (including participating in React development) gave you the kind of exposure and experience you needed for Redux. I think a lot of people reading on here missed this parts and I certainly didn't catch onto this reading your Things I don't Know as of 2018 post or the "Things I do Know" post you linked to.
- dang 8y ago
  It seems like you were stepping into being personally abrasive here. Please don't do that on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html