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> In London some bike lanes have slightly increased travel times by car but cycling has increased more than 50%. 50% of anything near zero is still darn close
by bb88 8y ago
> In London some bike lanes have slightly increased travel times by car but cycling has increased more than 50%.
50% of anything near zero is still darn close to zero. But at the same token, a 5 minute increase for 1000 people is a loss of 5000 minutes.
> The reason people in cars don't notice bike traffic is because a bike is small and unobtrusive and silent.
False. A single bike sticks out like a sore thumb in traffic -- even if there's a bike lane. In this case, I was so pissed off at the increase of my commute I started to count bikes in the bike lane, and I saw exactly zero.
- ubercow13 8y agoHave you considered using the bike lane yourself?
- dovvdkc 8y agoTo start off that’s ableist. And reeks of privilege (can he afford to live a biking distance to work?) But that doesn’t matter - someone unilaterally changes something and everyone else is supposed to get with the program or find a hole to die in.
- ubercow13 8y agoI don't think its ableist, I wasn't suggesting that there shouldn't be a road for cars, or that they should even bike themselves. I was just wondering if they had considered why they didn't want to use it as that might shed light on why it wasn't a successful bike lane.
- JAlexoid 8y agoLike the motorists changed laws concerning pedestrian traffic and road laws?
- bb88 8y agoYes, but I have a life long history of listening to horror stories of people on bikes getting hit by cars. These days, I fly back and forth to work, so it makes little sense to use a bike.
- tinus_hn 8y agoThe paper has the number of bikers. But I’m sure your statistically representative research of ‘watching for bikers while driving once’ is much more worthwhile.
- bb88 8y agoMy apologies. It was 0 over the course of 30 days of commuting. Exactly 0.
- dirkgently 8y ago> so pissed off > single bike sticks out like a sore thumb Now it totally makes sense.
- dovvdkc 8y agoWell when you have to dodge an unfit person going up a hill you notice. I’m all for bike lanes. And bicycle licenses. Can’t go up the 80 percentile hill in your town at 20 mph? You fail.