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People select effective tools, shocker. >America would be pretty much the same if after 1900 guns had been banned That’s a pretty massive leap. Maybe you can
by SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
People select effective tools, shocker.
>America would be pretty much the same if after 1900 guns had been banned
That’s a pretty massive leap. Maybe you can ignore the 500k-3M defensive gun uses per year, maybe you can ignore the civil rights movement that was furthered by blacks arming themselves - coincidentaly this is the roots of modern gun control in the USA (a plan to keep “the wrong people” from owning guns, still rooted in racism today), ignore the “rooftop Koreans”, ignore that unlike Mexico to the tip of Chile that razor wire and bars on Windows isn’t common in USA because the penalty for property crime can be death, ignore that our military is the best in the world because of country boys that grew up with positive gun culture, ignore all you like. You’re clearly not presenting a factual argument with such a broad hypothetical.
Edit: I’ve already been sucked in to a silly line of thinking too much. The point here isn’t that you’re scared or upset about the existence of guns. It’s that we don’t get rid of things or stop people from thinking things because someone might be bad. That’s not how a free society works.
- dzhiurgis 8y ago> our military is the best More troops kill themselves than die in field. Of those who come back murder more people home than enemies.
- mattigames 8y agoI can see where the problem is, "best military in the world" if by "best" you mean the creators of ISIS for destabilizing a middle-east country or violating every human right on Vietnam, or torturing people in guanmo. The blacks arming themselves was a response of whites already being armed for centuries, bla bla you can say that everybody you dislike has not a factual argument, it means nothing as well.
- mattigames 8y agoYour definition of "free society" is probably the problem here. In mine the tools of violence play a non-existing role; for exactly the same reason they don't get atomic bombs.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago> In mine the tools of violence play a non-existing role; Lol. When you have a problem, you’re going to call police, to bring a “tool of violence”. You’re just being naive about who is ‘allowed’ to have a means of defense. If police are the only ones that can defend themselves from people like you - you aren’t free, you are subservient. Aren’t the same people a threat to them, a threat to you? Classes of nobility don’t seem very free to me. But... you jumped to “nuclear gun”, so how much of a serious argument could I expect from you?
- mattigames 8y agoAd hominem much. Bla bla you believe what you want in a civilized country the only gun needed by the police may be a taser gun.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y agoYou’re right, I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were literally a child, mattigames. >only gun needed by the police may be a taser gun :D please tell me more about your experience with police and police training! Then I’ll tell you mine where I’ve traveled around the country training and training with police. Can’t wait. EDIT: Nice job using a throwaway account to downvote my posts! Though you should know that’s against the TOS here.
- dang 8y agoPlease don't do flamewars on HN, and especially don't cross into incivility like you did here. That's a way to get banned on HN, but we'd much rather that you take the spirit of this site to heart. Please see the links at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18787962 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18787962.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y agoAbsolutely my bad. I got sucked into it somehow despite it being clear the topic was lost nearly right away.