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How it is a fantasy when many cities around the world already do this to varying extents? Did the definition of the word 'fantasy' change while I wasn't looking

How it is a fantasy when many cities around the world already do this to varying extents? Did the definition of the word 'fantasy' change while I wasn't looking? Yes, US cities wouldn't be able to change to this overnight, but over the course of years and decades it's definitely possible.

robertAngst 8y ago
Post a city please. It would be helpful to see real world executions.
- TulliusCicero 8y ago
  Sure. Keep in mind, the idea isn't "no cars around at all", it's about balance and prioritization. Houten, the Dutch suburb that's really built for bikes, even by Dutch standards: https://www.citylab.com/solutions/2015/06/a-case-study-in-bike-friendly-suburban-planning/396107/ https://www.citylab.com/solutions/2015/06/a-case-study-in-bi... "Superblocks" in Barcelona: https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/08/inside-a-pedestrian-first-superblock/566864/ https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/08/inside-a-pede...
- Findeton 8y ago
  Well, Lisbon, Madrid, Valencia and Sevilla. Sure, there are cars and roads, but the public transport system is good enough that you don't really need it. You only need a car to get out of the city. Also, in Sevilla (and now Valencia too) there are enough dedicated bike lanes that you can go to almost anywhere on bike, and you won't need to mix in with the cars or pedestrians. Middle class definitely live in the city in those examples (and you won't be surrounded by homeless people) . In general European city centers come from medieval times, making them very walk-able (and touristic).
  - kortilla 8y ago
    >Sure, there are cars and roads, but the public transport system is good enough that you don't really need it. There is massive gulf between what you described and carless.