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The paucity of useful tools/libraries written in Haskell as compared to languages like Go are more due to the fact that there are far more people in the Go eco

The paucity of useful tools/libraries written in Haskell as compared to languages like Go are more due to the fact that there are far more people in the Go ecosystem than Haskell, rather than because Haskellers are too busy navel gazing. This disparity in numbers is in turn is primarily because golang/Python/C is inherently much more approachable than Haskell because the average programmer has cut his/her teeth writing imperative code for a significant portion of their early programming career. The jump to functional way of thinking requires a certain leap of the mind, that most people don't want to take the trouble doing because they seem to be happy "getting things done" in golang or Python. However, that is not to say that we shouldn't be striving for correctness in code that Haskell fosters, or the inherent simplicity that it forces on you because you are forced to separate your IO and effect-full code from the pure bits. These are things worth striving for. These are broad principles worth emulating even when you are coding in an imperative language. To turn your McDonalds analogy around: sure, a McD will let you just get your food requirements out of the way quickly and cheaply (i.e. just "get stuff done"). But in the long run, it's bad for you. Haskell is a healthy salad to an [insert favourite imperative language] burger.

weberc2 8y ago
The things that keep me from using Haskell aren’t the functional bits but the overall complexity of everything. There are apparently several build tools, preludes, compiler extensions, string types, etc and figuring out when to use which is a major pain. And to top it all off, there’s the tediousness of the syntax, the pervasive use of symbol identifiers, and the general preference for code-golf programming vs readable programming. And THEN there is the tedium of the functional purity. I really, really want to use Haskell because it’s type system seems neat in general, but the type system doesn’t justify all of the tedium. Go definitely loses on type system, but it wins in many of these other areas and so the trade offs are just better.

weberc2 8y ago

The things that keep me from using Haskell aren’t the functional bits but the overall complexity of everything. There are apparently several build tools, preludes, compiler extensions, string types, etc and figuring out when to use which is a major pain. And to top it all off, there’s the tediousness of the syntax, the pervasive use of symbol identifiers, and the general preference for code-golf programming vs readable programming. And THEN there is the tedium of the functional purity. I really, really want to use Haskell because it’s type system seems neat in general, but the type system doesn’t justify all of the tedium. Go definitely loses on type system, but it wins in many of these other areas and so the trade offs are just better.