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>The example of the judge is an instructive one, although a little extreme. Due to the immense power vested in judges, even the tiniest perception of bias must

by clubm8 8y ago

>The example of the judge is an instructive one, although a little extreme. Due to the immense power vested in judges, even the tiniest perception of bias must be avoided. You can avoid being subject to a judge by not violating the law. You cannot avoid being subject to the law. If you think the "tiniest perception of bias must be avoided"for judges (who interpret the law), then the same extends to those who write it.

eigenvector 8y ago
Even if you want to apply judicial ethical standards to city lawmakers, then a member of city council giving a token gift to another member of city council is most analogous to a judge on a panel giving a token gift to another judge on the same panel which... would probably be OK? Legislators do not sit in personal, unilateral, legally binding judgement of each other, which is why their personal relationships are not analogous to that of a lawyer and a judge as the original article suggested.
tomcam 8y ago
> You can avoid being subject to a judge by not violating the law. It’s cool that you live in that wonderful country where no one gets thrown into jail unjustly. Unfortunately I live in the United States of America, which is not that country. I have spent three days in jail for something I didn’t do. It is also probably true that everyone violates laws during the day – we simply have too many laws to avoid this from happening.
toufiqbarhamov 8y ago
If you think the "tiniest perception of bias must be avoided"for judges (who interpret the law), then the same extends to those who write it. Actually it’s not just his thoughts, it’s the ethical guidelines on the books. The same standards don’t exist for city councils, for obvious and easily comprehensible reasons. https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-united-states-judges#c https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-unit...

by clubm8 8y ago

eigenvector 8y ago

Even if you want to apply judicial ethical standards to city lawmakers, then a member of city council giving a token gift to another member of city council is most analogous to a judge on a panel giving a token gift to another judge on the same panel which... would probably be OK? Legislators do not sit in personal, unilateral, legally binding judgement of each other, which is why their personal relationships are not analogous to that of a lawyer and a judge as the original article suggested.

tomcam 8y ago

> You can avoid being subject to a judge by not violating the law. It’s cool that you live in that wonderful country where no one gets thrown into jail unjustly. Unfortunately I live in the United States of America, which is not that country. I have spent three days in jail for something I didn’t do. It is also probably true that everyone violates laws during the day – we simply have too many laws to avoid this from happening.

toufiqbarhamov 8y ago

If you think the "tiniest perception of bias must be avoided"for judges (who interpret the law), then the same extends to those who write it. Actually it’s not just his thoughts, it’s the ethical guidelines on the books. The same standards don’t exist for city councils, for obvious and easily comprehensible reasons. https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-united-states-judges#c https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-unit...