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But i seriously doubt that there are hackers capable of getting into gmail account and finding the device where i stored bitcoin. Right now, I've put bitcoins

But i seriously doubt that there are hackers capable of getting into gmail account and finding the device where i stored bitcoin. Right now, I've put bitcoins in blockchain.info on completely different pc and backed up the keys to raw paper secured in safe. Blockchain.info is linked to my protonmail account. But even protonmail doesn't know about my private keys. But only thing i wondering is wether blockchain.info can be hacked or not. For some reason i do not trust Trezor like stuff because the hardware might fail then what will i do? Right now I've memorized private key, so i can restore it anytime. Do you guys see any vunerability in this approach?

RandomTisk 8y ago
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berberous 8y ago
I feel like I'm being trolled. If not, seriously stop giving people your details - you are creating an over $7 million honeypot / bug bounty! Delete all of this. Use a burner/fake account on a different forum, and ask for advice without mentioning the number of bitcoins you have. Other advice: 1. If you have 2000 bitcoins, consider splitting them up via different storage methods. There is risk in doing this (wider attack surface; locking yourself out), but if someone hacks you, better they only take half your bitcoins before you can secure yourself. 2. If the Trezor fails, just use your memorized private key / raw paper backup. 3. Sell half, even if bullish. It could always go to zero.
- bduerst 8y ago
  They just said that they're flying to <major city> tomorrow and hope they don't get kidnapped. It's a troll.
gopher2 8y ago
No, but you should try to practice more security through obscurity by not telling the entire internet about it.
geekone 8y ago
If you're as loose with your personal information in public as you are about the fact you have millions of USD in bitcoin, then you're probably not difficult to physically locate. At that point it's just a matter of a wrench or hammer I'd suppose. https://www.xkcd.com/538/ https://www.xkcd.com/538/
- InGodsName 8y ago
  So you mean there are people who will assult me for a few million? Everyday i see guys in supercars around me, i never seen them being assaulted when they are clearly without security and they clearly have all that money.
  - tolle 8y ago
    Because their funds are easier to track. And easier to prove that they belong to them. Someone just needs to get your keys off you and there's that. You've got nothing on them.
  - aledujke 8y ago
    But to steal millions from those people you need a lot more resources and a risky plan. Whereas to steal BTC from someone like you, you need a wrench to the head for some convincing, like in the linked comic. I mean to steal millions from someones bank account you need them at the bank and even then you get a trail from bank transfer to another account etc. plus the bank could reverse transaction when police gets involved. While if they can access your wallet they can transfer anonymously to another wallet that no one knows who it belongs to. So the person you are responding to has a point, I think.
    - InGodsName 8y ago
      Thank you! I didn't know that. Tomorrow I'll be flying to NYC and sell all my bitcoin. I don't want such a risk like kidnapping etc... I didn't know about these risks before.
      - 8y ago
notyourday 8y ago
You have just made a $7M bet that you won't fuck up your opsec. You made this bet against the world. You are also betting that you have physical security that can handle the power of a Desert Eagle.
- stale2002 8y ago
  Nobody is going around hunting people who own Bitcoin in western countries. This paranoia is just a dumb meme.
  - berberous 8y ago
    https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks
    - stale2002 8y ago
      Your link only proves my point. That is basically a list of every single bitcoin attack that has ever happened in the entire world. If that is all people have to worry about, then I think people are pretty safe. It is just a silly meme to be that paranoid about this stuff.
wyldfire 8y ago
> Right now, I've put bitcoins in blockchain.info on completely different pc and backed up the keys to raw paper secured in safe. That seems like a great approach. But whatever you do, don't disclose what you have to anyone. See [1] for details. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7lb7rm/be_your_own_bank_a_cautionary_tale/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7lb7rm/be_your_own_...
fivefive55 8y ago
Thanks for all that personal info, while your at it why don't you just tell us that private key too? Seriously, you're here asking about security but you're giving us all your details. Your gmail is even known. Security through Obscurity is a real thing, and you've just painted a huge multi-million dollar target on your back.
cowmoo728 8y ago
The weak point is not your gmail account security. It's that now that you've announced that you have X million dollars in a form that's easy to transfer to an anonymous account, they could show up at your house or kidnap your children. The thing stopping that from being more common with USD is that international transfers will be stopped, law enforcement can track accounts, things like that. Bitcoin has none of those protections.
Kaveren 8y ago
I don't believe that you have 2,000 Bitcoin. Nobody that interested in Bitcoin would even think of using blockchain.info to hold a fraction of that much. I don't even like, use, or think Bitcoin is useful, and even I'd know better than to do that. I can't believe someone holding more than $50k in blockchain.info, and even that is ridiculously unadvisable. Web wallets are not secure. I very much doubt anyone interested enough in Bitcoin to acquire 2,000 of them early enough on would do such a thing.

RandomTisk 8y ago

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berberous 8y ago

I feel like I'm being trolled. If not, seriously stop giving people your details - you are creating an over $7 million honeypot / bug bounty! Delete all of this. Use a burner/fake account on a different forum, and ask for advice without mentioning the number of bitcoins you have. Other advice: 1. If you have 2000 bitcoins, consider splitting them up via different storage methods. There is risk in doing this (wider attack surface; locking yourself out), but if someone hacks you, better they only take half your bitcoins before you can secure yourself. 2. If the Trezor fails, just use your memorized private key / raw paper backup. 3. Sell half, even if bullish. It could always go to zero.

bduerst 8y ago
They just said that they're flying to <major city> tomorrow and hope they don't get kidnapped. It's a troll.

gopher2 8y ago

No, but you should try to practice more security through obscurity by not telling the entire internet about it.

geekone 8y ago

If you're as loose with your personal information in public as you are about the fact you have millions of USD in bitcoin, then you're probably not difficult to physically locate. At that point it's just a matter of a wrench or hammer I'd suppose. https://www.xkcd.com/538/ https://www.xkcd.com/538/

InGodsName 8y ago
So you mean there are people who will assult me for a few million? Everyday i see guys in supercars around me, i never seen them being assaulted when they are clearly without security and they clearly have all that money.
- tolle 8y ago
  Because their funds are easier to track. And easier to prove that they belong to them. Someone just needs to get your keys off you and there's that. You've got nothing on them.
- aledujke 8y ago
  But to steal millions from those people you need a lot more resources and a risky plan. Whereas to steal BTC from someone like you, you need a wrench to the head for some convincing, like in the linked comic. I mean to steal millions from someones bank account you need them at the bank and even then you get a trail from bank transfer to another account etc. plus the bank could reverse transaction when police gets involved. While if they can access your wallet they can transfer anonymously to another wallet that no one knows who it belongs to. So the person you are responding to has a point, I think.
  - InGodsName 8y ago
    Thank you! I didn't know that. Tomorrow I'll be flying to NYC and sell all my bitcoin. I don't want such a risk like kidnapping etc... I didn't know about these risks before.
    - 8y ago

notyourday 8y ago

You have just made a $7M bet that you won't fuck up your opsec. You made this bet against the world. You are also betting that you have physical security that can handle the power of a Desert Eagle.

stale2002 8y ago
Nobody is going around hunting people who own Bitcoin in western countries. This paranoia is just a dumb meme.
- berberous 8y ago
  https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks
  - stale2002 8y ago
    Your link only proves my point. That is basically a list of every single bitcoin attack that has ever happened in the entire world. If that is all people have to worry about, then I think people are pretty safe. It is just a silly meme to be that paranoid about this stuff.

wyldfire 8y ago

> Right now, I've put bitcoins in blockchain.info on completely different pc and backed up the keys to raw paper secured in safe. That seems like a great approach. But whatever you do, don't disclose what you have to anyone. See [1] for details. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7lb7rm/be_your_own_bank_a_cautionary_tale/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7lb7rm/be_your_own_...

fivefive55 8y ago

Thanks for all that personal info, while your at it why don't you just tell us that private key too? Seriously, you're here asking about security but you're giving us all your details. Your gmail is even known. Security through Obscurity is a real thing, and you've just painted a huge multi-million dollar target on your back.

cowmoo728 8y ago

The weak point is not your gmail account security. It's that now that you've announced that you have X million dollars in a form that's easy to transfer to an anonymous account, they could show up at your house or kidnap your children. The thing stopping that from being more common with USD is that international transfers will be stopped, law enforcement can track accounts, things like that. Bitcoin has none of those protections.

Kaveren 8y ago

I don't believe that you have 2,000 Bitcoin. Nobody that interested in Bitcoin would even think of using blockchain.info to hold a fraction of that much. I don't even like, use, or think Bitcoin is useful, and even I'd know better than to do that. I can't believe someone holding more than $50k in blockchain.info, and even that is ridiculously unadvisable. Web wallets are not secure. I very much doubt anyone interested enough in Bitcoin to acquire 2,000 of them early enough on would do such a thing.