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Comparing eating meat with slavery is exactly why people won't stop eating meat. It's impossible to take such an argument seriously. > no one is arguing that m

Comparing eating meat with slavery is exactly why people won't stop eating meat. It's impossible to take such an argument seriously. > no one is arguing that meat doesn't taste good or that most people don't like to eat it. That's pretty much the final word on the subject. People will never stop eating meat. It's part of being human (yes some humans don't do it, but we are omnivores).

hn_throwaway_99 8y ago
> It's impossible to take such an argument seriously. Why? It seems you are exactly proving my point: you've compartmentalized one as "ok cause we like it and do it now" and the other as "evil because it's bad and we don't do it anymore", but provide no argument as to why they are logically so incomparable. And your "final word on the subject" is apparently "meat tastes good and people like it." Forgive me if I'm not pursuaded by your "logic".
- malvosenior 8y ago
  > Why? Because it's a non-sequitur. Slavery and diet have absolutely nothing to do with each other. You could pick any good or bad example of something and strap it to your argument, but it doesn't make it convincing. > And your "final word on the subject" is apparently "meat tastes good and people like it." Forgive me if I'm not pursuaded by your "logic". Yep, that's why people will continue to eat meat; it tastes great. Do you honestly think people will ever stop? I know I never would and I'm sure I'm not alone.
  - 19cdf4a25547c4 8y ago
    > slavery and diet have absolutely nothing to do with each other. No one is talking about diet. The part where you eat the animal isn't relevant morally. The part where the animal's freedom is restricted and is treated as an object purely for the pleasure of humans is. What you're experiencing is cognitive dissonance. You're not a bad person for being raised in a culture that encourages you to not think about these things. You should try to look into where your food comes from even though our cultural biases that will make us try to avoid doing so or justify the atrocities when we do see them.
  - gfodor 8y ago
    It's seems obvious that if you are raised to not eat meat then you will be very unlikely to introduce it into your diet later on, especially if it is socially frowned upon. People who have been vegetarians for a long time often are unable to stomach meat. Also, it's clear that some kinds of meat are already not eaten: do you think the reason people don't eat dog in the US is because it doesn't taste good? So, while it's certainly likely that people alive today will always eat meat, generational turn-over could result in a world without meat eaters. (I eat meat but do not eat mammals.)
  - dang 8y ago
    Please stop. We don't need another generic flamewar about this.

hn_throwaway_99 8y ago

> It's impossible to take such an argument seriously. Why? It seems you are exactly proving my point: you've compartmentalized one as "ok cause we like it and do it now" and the other as "evil because it's bad and we don't do it anymore", but provide no argument as to why they are logically so incomparable. And your "final word on the subject" is apparently "meat tastes good and people like it." Forgive me if I'm not pursuaded by your "logic".

malvosenior 8y ago
> Why? Because it's a non-sequitur. Slavery and diet have absolutely nothing to do with each other. You could pick any good or bad example of something and strap it to your argument, but it doesn't make it convincing. > And your "final word on the subject" is apparently "meat tastes good and people like it." Forgive me if I'm not pursuaded by your "logic". Yep, that's why people will continue to eat meat; it tastes great. Do you honestly think people will ever stop? I know I never would and I'm sure I'm not alone.
- 19cdf4a25547c4 8y ago
  > slavery and diet have absolutely nothing to do with each other. No one is talking about diet. The part where you eat the animal isn't relevant morally. The part where the animal's freedom is restricted and is treated as an object purely for the pleasure of humans is. What you're experiencing is cognitive dissonance. You're not a bad person for being raised in a culture that encourages you to not think about these things. You should try to look into where your food comes from even though our cultural biases that will make us try to avoid doing so or justify the atrocities when we do see them.
- gfodor 8y ago
  It's seems obvious that if you are raised to not eat meat then you will be very unlikely to introduce it into your diet later on, especially if it is socially frowned upon. People who have been vegetarians for a long time often are unable to stomach meat. Also, it's clear that some kinds of meat are already not eaten: do you think the reason people don't eat dog in the US is because it doesn't taste good? So, while it's certainly likely that people alive today will always eat meat, generational turn-over could result in a world without meat eaters. (I eat meat but do not eat mammals.)
- dang 8y ago
  Please stop. We don't need another generic flamewar about this.