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This is too much. Uncrossable lines must be drawn immediately. Humanity cannot afford to "wing it" when it comes to ethics and morality at this scale. There nee
by badrabbit 8y ago
This is too much. Uncrossable lines must be drawn immediately. Humanity cannot afford to "wing it" when it comes to ethics and morality at this scale. There needs to be clear lines where crossing means the highest criminal consequence to the researcher. And people funding it. And it needs to be a global effort.
Everything needs a balance.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago7 billion people on this planet, pick an “uncrossable” line and I’ll find you someone who will cross it. You can’t put the genie back in the bottle. Best to find ways to govern ethical practices, instead of driving the research underground.
- vbuwivbiu 8y ago"You can’t put the genie back in the bottle" You can though. You can do whatever you want! Although you can't unknow something, you can choose not to do it
- khazhoux 8y agoWhy is this an uncrossable line, though? Clearly this research is meant to be a first/early step towards preserving brains in the event of traumatic bodily injury. Is that not a worthwhile goal? Is it outweighed by some possible nefarious abuse of this technique? There are obviously major issues to work out still, but I don't see how else this research can advance but with animal experiments.
- dahdum 8y agoI don’t see major issues either. If they can make this work it reasons maintaining the eyes may be possible, and perhaps some auditory nerve capability too. I’d probably take the chance if faced with early death otherwise.
- andai 8y agoWhen your body is done for, but you've gotten really attached to your head.
- aerique 8y agoThis is all fun and games until Peter Thiel needs a new host for his brain. disclaimer: I am not Peter Thiel
- starbeast 8y agoNot yet you aren't.
- trevyn 8y agoI would be seriously disappointed if some of these people don’t have research projects running for this. You can get away with some crazy stuff once you leave US soil.
- alan_wade 8y agoMaybe it's a new body for Peter Thiel made out of some poor person. Maybe it's immortality for all of us, ability for a dying person to hop into a young, healthy, good looking clone body.
- badrabbit 8y agoBecause animal torture is considered unethical. If you don't agree that's fine. Let us at least agree the line is needed. We shouldn't be discussing this retroactively.
- khazhoux 8y agoPlease don't represent your debate opponents here as supporting "animal torture" -- that's horrible. In this article there was no brain function at all. As research progresses, it may be possible to establish brain activity without any pain sensation. One can debate whether being suddenly blind, deaf, and paralyzed rises to the level of animal abuse. And then, whether this is nonetheless worth the research benefits.
- badrabbit 8y agoThat's exactly my point,is there a law that defines what constitutes enough brain functionality to classify this as torture. This isn't about you or anyone else supporting animal torture,don't imply my saying things I did not. This is about clearly defining what constitutes animal torture and unethical practices are and implementing most severe of consequences for those who cross it. The debate is need for a clearly defined line and consequences,not where it should be drawn.