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But in this case, it's Patreon, trying to look out for its own best business interests. It's almost ideal. I agree with most of your comment, but is Patreon re
by nkurz 8y ago
But in this case, it's Patreon, trying to look out for its own best business interests. It's almost ideal.
I agree with most of your comment, but is Patreon really free to make the decision? Assume a hypothetical "free speech absolutist" version of Patreon, who decided they wouldn't bow to outside pressure. It seems likely that that as with their short-lived free-speech-embracing competitors, the outside forces are strong enough that they would soon convince the credit card processors to refuse to continue serving them. Patreon isn't exactly forced to acquiesce, but they would have to decide that it's a hill worth dying on. Do you still view this larger picture as "almost ideal"?
- someguydave 8y agoYes, in fact the ex-Paypal employee at Patreon who is making these censorship decisions explicitly mentioned the credit card processor guidelines as the reason for their recent censorship. It's difficult not to see this censorship as something other than cartel-like behavior on the part of credit card processors.