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Meh, I write cross platform applications, single code base, and compile to native executables on Windows, Linux, and Mac with no problem and no extra Chromium b

Meh, I write cross platform applications, single code base, and compile to native executables on Windows, Linux, and Mac with no problem and no extra Chromium bloat. FreePascal + Lazarus.

TomMarius 8y ago
How do I run that on web, the most important platform today? I'm also not aware of any comparable community like Node.js has. And I say that as someone who was writing Pascal professionally ~5 years ago.
- arcticwombat 8y ago
  We're not talking about web applications, we're talking about Electron. But sure, if you want to do Pascal on the web there are things like Smart Pascal.
  - TomMarius 8y ago
    We're talking about ways to do multiplatform applications, which includes the web. You suggested Pascal but that doesn't run on the web without changing the code. Enclosing the application in Electron shell does not mean it's the only way it's going to be ran, actually most of the time you do it because you already have a web application and a server.
    - arcticwombat 8y ago
      You can't run an Electron app on the web without changing code either, seeing as it's a browser AND a webserver combo. You also don't take a webapp and separate server and just drop the two into a folder and run it as an Electron app without changing code
      - TomMarius 8y ago
        Not true. You can code the app in a way that allows you to share code completely between web, server and Electron app; there will just be a little boilerplate in the Electron app around it.
cztomsik 8y ago
I've done delphi in the past but I haven't heard about it for a while. How big is the community nowadays? What about libs? Package manager? Dependency-hell? Unit-testing frameworks and other toolings? How easy is it to stop the whole application and inspect everything, evaluate some code in parent stack and see if the issue was resolved so that you know exactly what to do? It's not only about GUI designer and fast cross-platform compiler.
- arcticwombat 8y ago
  Online package manager can search, download, and install packages. I have libs/packages for everything I need, dunno about your needs. Not sure about the community size but it's plenty big and plenty helpful, lots of cool new stuff going on. Plenty of debuggers available and you can pause things and inspect stuff. Lazarus has seen loads of updates the last few years, it's worth taking the time to set it up to fit your needs and learn the shortcuts.

Meh, I write cross platform applications, single code base, and compile to native executables on Windows, Linux, and Mac with no problem and no extra Chromium bloat. FreePascal + Lazarus.

TomMarius 8y ago

How do I run that on web, the most important platform today? I'm also not aware of any comparable community like Node.js has. And I say that as someone who was writing Pascal professionally ~5 years ago.

arcticwombat 8y ago
We're not talking about web applications, we're talking about Electron. But sure, if you want to do Pascal on the web there are things like Smart Pascal.
- TomMarius 8y ago
  We're talking about ways to do multiplatform applications, which includes the web. You suggested Pascal but that doesn't run on the web without changing the code. Enclosing the application in Electron shell does not mean it's the only way it's going to be ran, actually most of the time you do it because you already have a web application and a server.
  - arcticwombat 8y ago
    You can't run an Electron app on the web without changing code either, seeing as it's a browser AND a webserver combo. You also don't take a webapp and separate server and just drop the two into a folder and run it as an Electron app without changing code
    - TomMarius 8y ago
      Not true. You can code the app in a way that allows you to share code completely between web, server and Electron app; there will just be a little boilerplate in the Electron app around it.

cztomsik 8y ago

I've done delphi in the past but I haven't heard about it for a while. How big is the community nowadays? What about libs? Package manager? Dependency-hell? Unit-testing frameworks and other toolings? How easy is it to stop the whole application and inspect everything, evaluate some code in parent stack and see if the issue was resolved so that you know exactly what to do? It's not only about GUI designer and fast cross-platform compiler.

arcticwombat 8y ago
Online package manager can search, download, and install packages. I have libs/packages for everything I need, dunno about your needs. Not sure about the community size but it's plenty big and plenty helpful, lots of cool new stuff going on. Plenty of debuggers available and you can pause things and inspect stuff. Lazarus has seen loads of updates the last few years, it's worth taking the time to set it up to fit your needs and learn the shortcuts.