This is a great counter example, but I would urge people not to get caught up in trying to look for outliers to try and prove a point. The parents comment stil

This is a great counter example, but I would urge people not to get caught up in trying to look for outliers to try and prove a point. The parents comment still stands I think. You kinda have to ask is it always the case that even in a bad home genius always manifests where it might? Or do you sometimes find that it goes entirely to waste. I'd venture to say it sometimes does go entirely to waste. On balance those kids probably go on to do well above average and it's likely you've never heard 99.999% of their names. I'm not sure why people want to focus on outlier geniuses so much when debating the claim that there is something they as a parent can do to systematically engineer higher intelligence in their own children. I just don't think it's that useful.