> programmers are basically 'bred' out of an assembly line like education system. Which means you find programmers with no passion or love of their craft. Ever

> programmers are basically 'bred' out of an assembly line like education system. Which means you find programmers with no passion or love of their craft. Every educated programmer in the country, passionate or not, goes through the same education system. If you like the work and are good at it, you'll do it with love and care when you're a professional, no matter how you were educated. I went through it myself, and I like to think I've done all right career-wise. > good natural programmers I'm not even sure what "natural" means in this context. If someone is a good programmer, does it matter if they are naturally talented or attained their skill by grinding? (and most of the time it's a combination of the two anyway). To quote a popular Westworld meme, "If you can't tell the difference, does it matter?" > where the likes of IIT graduates are preferred over a simpleton with great passion, skill and knowledge of the craft. Evaluating programmer talent in the timespan of an interview is hard. Of course, hiring an IIT grad is going to be preferred over taking a punt on a random candidate - assuming both candidates are at the beginning of their career. It's not a cultural problem unique to India or China - hiring based on educational pedigree happens in every country in the world.