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They don't propose it explicitly, they just lead people to it. Once you have started believing that religion is the root of all evil, you do not have to travel

They don't propose it explicitly, they just lead people to it. Once you have started believing that religion is the root of all evil, you do not have to travel very far at all to find yourself persecuting the religious. The position they espouse isn't just a serious logical mistake, it is a terrible moral one.

rohit2412 8y ago
Then you also lead people to theocracy. There are positions one can take between "all religions are peaceful, good, and true", and "kill the religious"
- starbeast 8y ago
  You don't lead people to theocracy by warning against killing for dogma. On the other hand, creating dogmas about religion being the source of all evil can have pretty awful consequences. There isn't a simple road between the two positions you gave, there is an entire territory.
  - rohit2412 8y ago
    Hitchens and Dawkins never advocated killing for dogma. Unless you mean killing jihadists, then well yeah, they probably advocated killing people who want to kill for dogma. > There isn't a simple road between the two positions you gave, there is an entire territory. When you recognize this, then why do you take their opinion as "kill all religious people". And it is absurdly stupid to say that religion is source of all evil, clearly Stalin and Mao's atrocities weren't based on religion.
    - starbeast 8y ago
      >why do you take their opinion as "kill all religious people" I don't, I haven't said that anywhere. >it is absurdly stupid to say that religion is source of all evil Yes it is absurdly stupid. This is the point I have been making. Repeatedly. It is a very stupid position to take.
      - rohit2412 8y ago
        That's what you said > "Once you have started believing that religion is the root of all evil, you do not have to travel very far at all to find yourself persecuting the religious. "

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They don't propose it explicitly, they just lead people to it. Once you have started believing that religion is the root of all evil, you do not have to travel

by starbeast 8y ago

rohit2412 8y ago
Then you also lead people to theocracy. There are positions one can take between "all religions are peaceful, good, and true", and "kill the religious"
- starbeast 8y ago
  You don't lead people to theocracy by warning against killing for dogma. On the other hand, creating dogmas about religion being the source of all evil can have pretty awful consequences. There isn't a simple road between the two positions you gave, there is an entire territory.
  - rohit2412 8y ago
    Hitchens and Dawkins never advocated killing for dogma. Unless you mean killing jihadists, then well yeah, they probably advocated killing people who want to kill for dogma. > There isn't a simple road between the two positions you gave, there is an entire territory. When you recognize this, then why do you take their opinion as "kill all religious people". And it is absurdly stupid to say that religion is source of all evil, clearly Stalin and Mao's atrocities weren't based on religion.
    - starbeast 8y ago
      >why do you take their opinion as "kill all religious people" I don't, I haven't said that anywhere. >it is absurdly stupid to say that religion is source of all evil Yes it is absurdly stupid. This is the point I have been making. Repeatedly. It is a very stupid position to take.
      - rohit2412 8y ago
        That's what you said > "Once you have started believing that religion is the root of all evil, you do not have to travel very far at all to find yourself persecuting the religious. "