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I don't know if BamBrogan is an "unstable guy" or not. But I'm not at all sure your summary "who was ousted form Hyperloop one by the whole board and officers"

by curtis 8y ago

I don't know if BamBrogan is an "unstable guy" or not. But I'm not at all sure your summary "who was ousted form Hyperloop one by the whole board and officers" is accurate based on what was reported at the time. For example, from an article in Wired [1]: > The lawsuit against Hyperloop One includes a security camera image of a man, apparently Afshin Pishevar, holding rope and walking through the office. BamBrogan allegedly found a noose on his desk after complaining about company operations. The axe is the only thing that seems weird, everything else you quoted can easily be explained by the fact that they'd failed to secure more funding and had to shut down even though they didn't want to. Many of us on Hacker News have no doubt experienced this kind of situation first hand. Also I should mention that although Arrivo was started by ex-Hyperloop One people they were definitely not doing a hyperloop system. [1] https://www.wired.com/2016/07/hyperloop-lawsuit-brogan-bambrogan-shervin-pishevar/ https://www.wired.com/2016/07/hyperloop-lawsuit-brogan-bambr...

bfung 8y ago
I total get the stress of getting funding or not - been there myself this past year. But axes and nooses are not normal. What kind of passive-aggressive childish behavior is this? How about sitting down and talk business like adults, state and TALK about each person's perspective of things, and not go psycho? Ousting maybe normal, but if things were normal, the usual news wouldn't be "ousted" - the worse language is usually "parted ways with disagreement".
- curtis 8y ago
  Neither of them are normal, but they're not the same thing. The allegation is that BamBrogan was the target in the noose incident, and there is some security footage which seems to corroborate it. In the axe incident BamBrogan allegedly took the axe to the office wall. That's pretty crazy but so far nobody has claimed he was trying to intimidate somebody else. In this case it's maybe interesting to note that it wasn't just any axe, but rather "The CEO [BamBrogan] had built the axe at Jeff Bezos’ MARS conference this past spring." [1] The guy definitely seems flamboyant, but that's not the same as unstable. I mean he might be unstable too, but I don't think one can draw that conclusion from the reporting. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/14/18128848/hyperloop-arrivo-furloughs-layoffs-money-trouble https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/14/18128848/hyperloop-arriv...

by curtis 8y ago

bfung 8y ago

I total get the stress of getting funding or not - been there myself this past year. But axes and nooses are not normal. What kind of passive-aggressive childish behavior is this? How about sitting down and talk business like adults, state and TALK about each person's perspective of things, and not go psycho? Ousting maybe normal, but if things were normal, the usual news wouldn't be "ousted" - the worse language is usually "parted ways with disagreement".

curtis 8y ago
Neither of them are normal, but they're not the same thing. The allegation is that BamBrogan was the target in the noose incident, and there is some security footage which seems to corroborate it. In the axe incident BamBrogan allegedly took the axe to the office wall. That's pretty crazy but so far nobody has claimed he was trying to intimidate somebody else. In this case it's maybe interesting to note that it wasn't just any axe, but rather "The CEO [BamBrogan] had built the axe at Jeff Bezos’ MARS conference this past spring." [1] The guy definitely seems flamboyant, but that's not the same as unstable. I mean he might be unstable too, but I don't think one can draw that conclusion from the reporting. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/14/18128848/hyperloop-arrivo-furloughs-layoffs-money-trouble https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/14/18128848/hyperloop-arriv...