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iPhone Owners Irate After iOS Update Bricks Cellular Data
- benguild 8y agoYikes, during the holidays, too....
- commandlinefan 8y agoWhether you’re traveling or not, this could be a problem - I’m at home all week, and I’ll be on WiFi. If I hadn’t seen this, I might not have thought to check to see if I was impacted for another week.
- toofy 8y agoYikes, this is very unfortunate timing for the regions who have holidays this time of year. This reinforces my constant reluctance to update anything around holidays or other chaotic travel periods. I wonder if Apple shouldn’t have waited until after the holiday season to push major updates. I mean, we all know stuff happens, this is just reality, but waiting a few measly days would not only have saved the inconvenience for the iOS team members who were surely pulled in to work during family holiday time, but probably more important to Apple, it would have saved the customers ability to communicate during the busiest family travel time of the year.
- tqkxzugoaupvwqr 8y agoI read a rumor that Apple pushed this update to work around Qualcomm patents so they can keep selling iPhones in China. Would explain why the update appears rushed. Must suck for the devs to be called back to work over the holidays.
- londons_explore 8y agoThat would make a lot of sense. I bet they've re-written big chunks of the LTE stack in a real hurry to work around various patents. Mobile standards and modems are a massive kludge of compatibility layers and hacks. Just look at the 'Hacks' section of the mediatek modem engineering app and you'll see all kinds of tweaks to allow the phone to connect to a certain network in a certain country which does something slightly wonky. My guess is that hurried rewriting of bits of a mobile stack probably led to them not perfectly replicating all those hacks, so certain phones with certain combinations of base stations, mobile networks, sim card models and authentication servers no longer connect properly. On the plus side, most of those mobile networks will probably now be snowed under with complaints from angry iphone owners, so rapidly updating their systems to become compatible again, even if apple refuses to re-implement the hacks.
- sschueller 8y ago"Addresses an issue that could affect cellular connectivity in Turkey for iPhone XR, iPhone XS, and iPhone XS Max" [1] What exactly did apple do here? Kind of suspicious that they made adjustments to the eSIM specifically for Turkey when Erdogan announced he would be banning iPhones because of coup fears [2]. Did they enable Turkey to listen in? [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209084 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209084 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/business/turkey-erdogan-apple-iphone.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/business/turkey-erdogan-a...
- gruez 8y ago>Did they enable Turkey to listen in? why would they need an Apple backdoor to do so? AFAIK carrier equipment already have "lawful intercept" mechanisms built in (which is no surprise because it's not e2e encrypted).
- traderjane 8y agoPrevious discussion. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18747302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18747302
- j7ake 8y agoThe worst is that if you don’t update the iOS constantly reminds you to update and if you say no you are given passcode to give it permission to update it by itself in the middle of the night.
- Overtonwindow 8y agoI never update my iPhone. Or rather, I update the software when I buy a new one. I don’t trust Apple, I believe in forced obsolescence, and I find it’s just better not to update.
- gruez 8y agoenjoy not getting security updates and getting hit by RCEs that were patched months ago.