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Ok, so my point is how a private company can ever determinate what is acceptable or not for them of their customers activities or idea. I do not know how USA le

by xte 8y ago

Ok, so my point is how a private company can ever determinate what is acceptable or not for them of their customers activities or idea. I do not know how USA legislation works, in EU a private company can't "discriminate" their customers based on their own personal assumption. If you run a company you may refuse a new customer or you may found a way to break a contract with an actual customer but nothing "suddenly", unnoticed and arbitrary or you face big troubles in curt.

jrs95 8y ago
Businesses in the U.S. for the most part can discriminate however they want as long as it isn't on the basis of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation.
- xte 8y ago
  So you say that a company can legally lock out a customers without any reasonable notice and room to discuss? In EU for instance telcos, banks etc often change conditions without "negotiation" they simply inform their customers that starting from the next month/year/end of auto-renewal period there are new conditions visible "there" and if their customers refuse the change can end the contract without penalties having, in theory, enough time to switch to another company. This protection is not much effective in many cases since most telcos/banks etc offer nearly the same conditions and change them nearly at the same time so a "bad move" for a customer of company X typically is already present or about to arrive to others possible "competitors", regularly antitrust step into action but normally without enough strength and timing to really avoid many bad moves... However no one can act without enough time from the over part to respond and certainly not without keep receiving money on behalf of anyone... Oh, to clarify I hear about cases arrived in curt with motivation like "we have received (as proved by Postal Service) that communication, but inside the envelope there are only to white sheets..." and things of that level but still person to person actions with a formal responsible from both sides.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > So you say that a company can legally lock out a customers without any reasonable notice and room to discuss? Generally, limited by terms of the contract with the customer, sure. But most consumer online services have contracts that provide broad discretion to providers. Some particular services are subject to additional public regulation.
    - xte 8y ago
      Hum, nice to know, thanks. I know that for instance a telco can lock a customers phone if it was an active spammer that with it's activity compromise/endanger telco service itself, however this can apply ONLY as a safety measure against immediate threats otherwise it can led to and adverse court decision because even if telco claim is valid it must demand communication to the costumer like "cease and desist letter" with proof that's it was received and a reasonable time after that event cut the service.
      - dragonwriter 8y ago
        Yes, telcos are particularly tightly regulated.

by xte 8y ago

jrs95 8y ago

Businesses in the U.S. for the most part can discriminate however they want as long as it isn't on the basis of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation.

xte 8y ago
So you say that a company can legally lock out a customers without any reasonable notice and room to discuss? In EU for instance telcos, banks etc often change conditions without "negotiation" they simply inform their customers that starting from the next month/year/end of auto-renewal period there are new conditions visible "there" and if their customers refuse the change can end the contract without penalties having, in theory, enough time to switch to another company. This protection is not much effective in many cases since most telcos/banks etc offer nearly the same conditions and change them nearly at the same time so a "bad move" for a customer of company X typically is already present or about to arrive to others possible "competitors", regularly antitrust step into action but normally without enough strength and timing to really avoid many bad moves... However no one can act without enough time from the over part to respond and certainly not without keep receiving money on behalf of anyone... Oh, to clarify I hear about cases arrived in curt with motivation like "we have received (as proved by Postal Service) that communication, but inside the envelope there are only to white sheets..." and things of that level but still person to person actions with a formal responsible from both sides.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > So you say that a company can legally lock out a customers without any reasonable notice and room to discuss? Generally, limited by terms of the contract with the customer, sure. But most consumer online services have contracts that provide broad discretion to providers. Some particular services are subject to additional public regulation.
  - xte 8y ago
    Hum, nice to know, thanks. I know that for instance a telco can lock a customers phone if it was an active spammer that with it's activity compromise/endanger telco service itself, however this can apply ONLY as a safety measure against immediate threats otherwise it can led to and adverse court decision because even if telco claim is valid it must demand communication to the costumer like "cease and desist letter" with proof that's it was received and a reasonable time after that event cut the service.
    - dragonwriter 8y ago
      Yes, telcos are particularly tightly regulated.