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Gmail loads within 1-3 seconds for me. Not only that, I VERY, VERY rarely close my browser, not even once a day if I can help it. So my mail is always available

Gmail loads within 1-3 seconds for me. Not only that, I VERY, VERY rarely close my browser, not even once a day if I can help it. So my mail is always available for me. Priority Inbox is amazing, as well. In regards to iPhone: Simply get an Android phone. Flawless Gmail/GoogleApps integration; native support for colored labels, calendar, etc. I wouldn't clal it half-baked IMAP, more of, half-baked clients that don't support Gmail properly. Remember that traditional email uses folders; Gmail uses labels. They are FAR superior in every way. If a client doesn't support it, find a new client. And I've never used MobileMe, but why add another point of failure to email? It's something that is typically very important to people, even more so probably the people who visit Hacker News.

TobyS95 16y ago
"Simply get an Android phone".. In your reply replace Gmail with Exchange and Android phone with Outlook and we would bring out the pitchforks decrying vendor lock-in. Exchange works fine for my work email, IMAP works fine for my Yahoo account and somehow it is the client's fault it doesn't "support Gmail properly". Of course, this data is equally meaningless as yours as the sample size is 1.
- michaelhart 16y ago
  When you change the way IMAP works for the better (a feature), then yes, the client should support it. If it doesn't, it's not a fault of the service, it's a fault of the client. I mean, have you ever used labels? I mean, REALLY used labels?
pmjordan 16y ago
Not only that, I VERY, VERY rarely close my browser. I actually keep Chrome running all the time just for GMail. My main web browser is Opera. Chrome's drag & drop support for attachments also helps. I used to use Firefox with Gears specifically for GMail, but that doesn't seem to work very well anymore (and Google have abandoned it with no replacement as yet).
- michaelhart 16y ago
  Gmail supports drag and drop attachments in all browsers with the use of Flash.
  - pmjordan 16y ago
    Interesting, thanks. I've never noticed as I have Flash disabled by default. :)
Groxx 16y ago
Priority seems to be messing up messages over IMAP. One inbox gets the original message in formatted goodness, and one gets the message's raw content as text (including meta-content, like attachments, separators, etc). Changes which one it comes into, too; I think it's whichever was pulled first.

TobyS95 16y ago

"Simply get an Android phone".. In your reply replace Gmail with Exchange and Android phone with Outlook and we would bring out the pitchforks decrying vendor lock-in. Exchange works fine for my work email, IMAP works fine for my Yahoo account and somehow it is the client's fault it doesn't "support Gmail properly". Of course, this data is equally meaningless as yours as the sample size is 1.

michaelhart 16y ago
When you change the way IMAP works for the better (a feature), then yes, the client should support it. If it doesn't, it's not a fault of the service, it's a fault of the client. I mean, have you ever used labels? I mean, REALLY used labels?

pmjordan 16y ago

Not only that, I VERY, VERY rarely close my browser. I actually keep Chrome running all the time just for GMail. My main web browser is Opera. Chrome's drag & drop support for attachments also helps. I used to use Firefox with Gears specifically for GMail, but that doesn't seem to work very well anymore (and Google have abandoned it with no replacement as yet).

michaelhart 16y ago
Gmail supports drag and drop attachments in all browsers with the use of Flash.
- pmjordan 16y ago
  Interesting, thanks. I've never noticed as I have Flash disabled by default. :)

Groxx 16y ago

Priority seems to be messing up messages over IMAP. One inbox gets the original message in formatted goodness, and one gets the message's raw content as text (including meta-content, like attachments, separators, etc). Changes which one it comes into, too; I think it's whichever was pulled first.