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It is interesting to see GMail advocates saving a few seconds a day by using this and that features of GMail, while itself getting slower and slower over the ti
by eddieplan9 16y ago
It is interesting to see GMail advocates saving a few seconds a day by using this and that features of GMail, while itself getting slower and slower over the time. I find myself stupid to wait 10 seconds just to load up GMail to quickly look up something. Why I am wasting these 10 seconds loading up a webapp when 99.9% of the time I am using my own computer?
You say running a desktop email client with GMail IMAP? The fact is I got tired of GMail's way of doing IMAP. I cannot remember how many times I try to make the `delete` key to actually trash an email in Mail.app. It's an even bigger mistake with its Push Email on iPhone. So half-baked IMAP and half-baked Exchange.
Finally, I could not stand it any more and moved over to MobileMe and cannot be happier. I still use the same GMail address and simply have GMail forward everything to my MobileMe account. This way, I get to keep my email address and take advantage of GMail's nice spam filter. I know GMail has IMAP and can do Push email and this and that, and after you configure this and that, it will work; but I am not a fancy person and just want to read, delete and send email, from my three Macs, an very old iPhone and an iPad. My days of messing around with kernel modules are over, and I guess I am old enough to start enjoying the almost-zero-configuration of MobileMe on all my computing devices.
- michaelhart 16y agoGmail loads within 1-3 seconds for me. Not only that, I VERY, VERY rarely close my browser, not even once a day if I can help it. So my mail is always available for me. Priority Inbox is amazing, as well. In regards to iPhone: Simply get an Android phone. Flawless Gmail/GoogleApps integration; native support for colored labels, calendar, etc. I wouldn't clal it half-baked IMAP, more of, half-baked clients that don't support Gmail properly. Remember that traditional email uses folders; Gmail uses labels. They are FAR superior in every way. If a client doesn't support it, find a new client. And I've never used MobileMe, but why add another point of failure to email? It's something that is typically very important to people, even more so probably the people who visit Hacker News.
- TobyS95 16y ago"Simply get an Android phone".. In your reply replace Gmail with Exchange and Android phone with Outlook and we would bring out the pitchforks decrying vendor lock-in. Exchange works fine for my work email, IMAP works fine for my Yahoo account and somehow it is the client's fault it doesn't "support Gmail properly". Of course, this data is equally meaningless as yours as the sample size is 1.
- michaelhart 16y agoWhen you change the way IMAP works for the better (a feature), then yes, the client should support it. If it doesn't, it's not a fault of the service, it's a fault of the client. I mean, have you ever used labels? I mean, REALLY used labels?
- pmjordan 16y agoNot only that, I VERY, VERY rarely close my browser. I actually keep Chrome running all the time just for GMail. My main web browser is Opera. Chrome's drag & drop support for attachments also helps. I used to use Firefox with Gears specifically for GMail, but that doesn't seem to work very well anymore (and Google have abandoned it with no replacement as yet).
- michaelhart 16y agoGmail supports drag and drop attachments in all browsers with the use of Flash.
- pmjordan 16y agoInteresting, thanks. I've never noticed as I have Flash disabled by default. :)
- Groxx 16y agoPriority seems to be messing up messages over IMAP. One inbox gets the original message in formatted goodness, and one gets the message's raw content as text (including meta-content, like attachments, separators, etc). Changes which one it comes into, too; I think it's whichever was pulled first.
- chrisbolt 16y agoI cannot remember how many times I try to make the `delete` key to actually trash an email in Mail.app. Click [Gmail]/Trash. Click the Mailbox menu, go to Use This Mailbox For, choose Trash. You're done.