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Small stupid things that make up my dev environment

92 points by blfr 8y ago

snowwindwaves 8y ago
I am 5'6 and I have found I like a desk about 24-26" off the ground so I can sit with my feet flat on the floor and hands in my lap at the keyboard without shoulders hunched. Hard to find! I have my old Aeron which I don't really love vertical adjustment nearly as low as it can go.
- denimnerd42 8y ago
  sounds like you need a 3M keyboard tray.. I do like my standing desk more though even though its 3x the cost of a good keyboard tray. It's has more flexibility as it can go down to 24" and up to 50" More importantly it's useful for more than just typing.. writing, soldering, etc.
  - snowwindwaves 8y ago
    Any links for the standing desk? 3m keyboard tray looks perfect. I had a great keyboard tray at Nortel in the nineties and all my workstations have been sub par since then.
    - denimnerd42 8y ago
      https://www.fully.com/jarvis-standing-desk.html https://www.fully.com/jarvis-standing-desk.html That's what I have but to be honest I think most of similar design all use jiecang frames from China.
- cimmanom 8y ago
  I have the exact same issue. A sit-stand desk with a wide height range has saved my back. The biggest challenge left is finding a chair that’s shallow enough to sit at the back of (for proper lumbar support) and still be able to bend your knees. Try adding a nice extra-tall laptop riser too. Typical ones tend to be 6-12” too low once the desk is no longer too high for typing.
  - wahnfrieden 8y ago
    Have a riser to recommend?
    - mtsr 8y ago
      It looks horrible, but at work I’ve been putting packs of A4 paper under the too low monitor stands of every flex desk I work at.
    - cimmanom 8y ago
      I use one of these ones that are intended as standing desk converters: https://www.uncagedergonomics.com/standing-desks/ https://www.uncagedergonomics.com/standing-desks/
- dws 8y ago
  Will your feet know the difference if it isn't really the floor they're flat on?
  - snowwindwaves 8y ago
    Yes because I like to move my legs around a bit to the sides too and those little foot stools are too small. Or I roll away from the keyboard to use pen and paper and then have to move The foot rest.
- reaperducer 8y ago
  I have found I like a desk about 24-26" off the ground so I can sit with my feet flat on the floor and hands in my lap at the keyboard without shoulders hunched My company has an ergonomics consultant who comes to each desk once a year and observes posture, foot position, etc... then recommends changes in desks and seating for each person. It’s the first place I’ve worked that does this. Someone said it was somehow tied in with our health insurance company.
jniedrauer 8y ago
The idea of programming in green text on a black background with no syntax highlighting makes me shudder.
- reaperducer 8y ago
  I did it back in the olden days, on everything from Wyse and Wang terminals to a Commodore 64 and an IBM XT with MDA display. I haven’t done it that way in years, but this article makes me want to try it again. I wonder if all that highlighting is actually making me less focused. I guess I’ll find out later this week.
  - XorNot 8y ago
    I can't see how you can get more productive by removing a channel of information from yourself though.
    - wutbrodo 8y ago
      Using this kind of rational-choice-based theory assumes complete control of the way your brain processes information and the channels it chooses to focus on, which simply isn't accurate. For a reductio ad absurdum, if you had a book in which each word was in bold purple iff its Scrabble score was divisible by 5, I don't think it would be controversial that removing that channel of information would make you more productive.
      - JetSpiegel 8y ago
        It would if it was a Scrabble dictionary.
        wutbrodo 8y ago
        Very true, and completely irrelevant. We're talking about a counterexample to a universal claim, not a universal claim that runs counter to the original claim. The comment I responded to said (paraphrased) "I don't see how you could be more efficient by removing a channel of information", and this is what I disputed, providing a theoretical explanation and a simple example. The fact that examples in the contrary direction exist (as you point out) is not disputed by anyone. FWIW, as far as the specific upthread topic goes: despite generally preferring a pretty barebones development environment, I prefer syntax highlighting.
julianlam 8y ago
It's these small, stupid things that actually were the reason why I couldn't hack it on a Macbook. You just get stuck in your ways when everything is set up _just right_, and the little things that Macs do that Linux didn't, and vice versa, just drove me up the wall, even though it was small and stupid.
- AlexCoventry 8y ago
  I've had success with this situation in the past by working in a vm or docker container.
- reaperducer 8y ago
  I think I understand what you’re saying. I’m a big trackpad guy. The only one in my office. I love my gestures on macOS, and use all kinds of them to do my work. Recently yet another computer was added to my desk by IT for a new project. This one is an HP laptop with Ubuntu. I’m sure Ubuntu is a great thing and I’ll love it when I get used to it. But the HP’s keyboard and trackpad are terrible, and using the machine completely disrupts my usual workflow. I miss my gestures. I miss being able to define actions way out to F19. I miss knowing that a swipe will always be a swipe, and not a scroll. We get set in our ways, especially when those ways are very productive and make sense to us. Having to switch to a different set of muscle memories is problematic.
- pdkl95 8y ago
  > when everything is set up _just right_ That's why I'm still using Enlightenment DR16 as my window manager, with the same theme/config I've been slowly customizing for ~20 years. Every time I try a different windows manager (including any enlightenment >= E17) it feels like an incomplete toy, not the feature-rich tool I'm familiar with.
  - zepearl 8y ago
    I did try to switch from e16 to e17 multiple times (on Gentoo), but I always had to rollback; I never found a bugfree version of e17. (sometimes in 2018 I had to switch away from e16 (got taken out from Gentoo's main package repo) and I ended up using XFCE. It's a pity that e17 never really worked, at least for me => I wonder if they'll ever publish a really stable version)
arvinsim 8y ago
I was able to get by with white on black terminal before. But nowadays, I can't stand coding if the editor doesn't have syntax highlighting.
- juangacovas 8y ago
  Same with being able to put the cursor over a variable name and automatically highlight all of them used in the same scope. Can't live without that
ggm 8y ago
Desks without modesty panels are a feature of offices without due consideration for personal privacy.
thibran 8y ago
For the typematic delay, I have no clue why it is so slow on Linux by default. Probably somebody has set those values 30 years ago and then nobody cared to update them. I use 'xset r rate 200 40' and when I use another Linux computer, typing feels just broken, super slow (Windows has better defaults than Linux in this regard). The weird part, there is no reason why keystrokes should have such a huge delay. Changing the xset values improves the user experience in a quite dramatic way.
- kungtotte 8y ago
  Could it be related to the teletype origins of Linux terminals? If you're on a slow line, you'll notice the difference more if your repeat rate is higher.
  - blfr 8y ago
    Maybe but nowadays you can use mosh[1] and it's not an issue any more. [1] https://mosh.org/ https://mosh.org/
- blfr 8y ago
  This seems great. How did I not know this. Trying it out right away. EDIT: I adjusted it a little to have fewer repetitions per second but lowering the delay is amazing. What a great thing to find in your HN stocking. Merry Christmas!
- tasuki 8y ago
  Where do you put this magical "xset r rate 200 40" on a modern Linux desktop? ~/.bashrc is the wrong place for sure (I might not even be running X!) ~/.Xresources seems like it would be the right place but it's a command so that won't work...
  - thibran 8y ago
    I have it in my i3 config: exec --no-startup-id sleep 2 && /usr/bin/xset r rate 200 40
mr_toad 8y ago
Anyone not coding on a 4K or higher monitor should complain. They’re not that expensive now, and the text is so much sharper. You might not notice the difference with a 4k TV on the other side of a room, but you will with a 28 inch screen a couple of feet in front of you.
- arvinsim 8y ago
  I don't like native 4k. Text rendering is too small for me. If I have to go native, 1440p or QHD ultrawides would be the best. But 4k scaled down in MacOS is great too!
  - kdmytro 8y ago
    You have to set DPI that is appropriate for your screen size. If you keep using the default 90 DPI with a 15" 4K screen, the text will for sure be small because it is rendered as if the screen is about 49".
    - tasuki 8y ago
      DPI means dots per inch. It's a physical property of an LCD screen (well, technically, that would be called PPI - pixels per inch, but it's the same concept). I'm not sure how one would be able to set the DPI. At least not without really bad shenanigans blurring everything in the process. Isn't the solution for "small letters on high pixel density screen" scaling as mentioned by arvinism or simply increasing the font size?
      - kdmytro 8y ago
        Like you said, DPI (or PPI) is a physical property of a screen. You don't set it for the screen, you just let your text rendering software know the DPI so that it could get the absolute text size (in mm) correctly. Let's consider two 15.6" screens: 1. 1366x768, ~100 DPI 2. 1920x1080, ~141 DPI When rendering a piece of text in a certain font size on both screens without specifying correct DPI (e.g., leaving the default DPI value of 90), the text on both screens will take up the same amount of pixels, but the absolute size in mm will be different (text on screen 2 will be smaller because pixels are denser there). If you, however, let your OS know the DPIs of the screens, rendering the same piece of text in the same font size on both screens should lead to the text physically taking up roughly the same area of the screen (as much same as it could be, taking into account the fact that pixels are discrete). This is true because point[1] is an absolute unit of measurement. To give you an example, when I switched from 1366x768 15.6" laptop to 1920x1080 15.6" laptop I specified the new screen DPI in my desktop environment font appearance settings. This made all the text be roughly same size as on the old laptop, only smoother due to greater pixel density. > Isn't the solution for "small letters on high pixel density screen" scaling as mentioned by arvinism or simply increasing the font size? This way you must render a picture as if the screen has higher DPI, then scale it down to match the desired DPI, you still have DPI in play here, and absolute text size implications described above apply here as well. You can use scaling for antialiasing, though. --- [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography)
tetha 8y ago
My own small thing is my personal keyboard. I have both a mechanical and non-mechanical personal keyboard, mind you. They cost me a pretty penny ($100+ for each), and I wouldn't expect an employer to spend that easily. So I can just provide my own. I have really long arms overall and normal keyboards force me to both put my wrists at really weird angles and turn and twist my elbows to get my hands to fit there. Something like the Microsoft Natural was a decent-ish width, but the Kinesis advantage or the Ergodox are just amazing. It's funny to watch too - people are kinda scared to touch a Kinesis advantage "because it's split and weird", but they start touch-typing quickly and start arranging the keyboard parts as it is comfortable in small steps as well. You just nudge the keyboard part instinctively with your thumb or your pinky to make it more comfortable.
rcarmo 8y ago
When setting up a Linux VM to work from, I usually go with OpenBox, LXterminal and FBPanel and call it a day: https://github.com/rcarmo/docker-templates/tree/master/desktop-chrome/home/user/.config https://github.com/rcarmo/docker-templates/tree/master/deskt... Building a portable setup is a lot easier these days with Docker, but over the years I started paring down stuff to vim+tmux (which work fine inside WSL) and sharing my dotfiles across the Mac, Linux and Windows. The one thing that gets me every time, though, is having a working SSH keychain. I want to log in once and have ssh-agent just work, and it seems like every year I have to re-learn another way to do it (which is fine, but annoying).

92 points by blfr 8y ago

I am 5'6 and I have found I like a desk about 24-26" off the ground so I can sit with my feet flat on the floor and hands in my lap at the keyboard without shoulders hunched. Hard to find! I have my old Aeron which I don't really love vertical adjustment nearly as low as it can go.

denimnerd42 8y ago
sounds like you need a 3M keyboard tray.. I do like my standing desk more though even though its 3x the cost of a good keyboard tray. It's has more flexibility as it can go down to 24" and up to 50" More importantly it's useful for more than just typing.. writing, soldering, etc.
- snowwindwaves 8y ago
  Any links for the standing desk? 3m keyboard tray looks perfect. I had a great keyboard tray at Nortel in the nineties and all my workstations have been sub par since then.
  - denimnerd42 8y ago
    https://www.fully.com/jarvis-standing-desk.html https://www.fully.com/jarvis-standing-desk.html That's what I have but to be honest I think most of similar design all use jiecang frames from China.
cimmanom 8y ago
I have the exact same issue. A sit-stand desk with a wide height range has saved my back. The biggest challenge left is finding a chair that’s shallow enough to sit at the back of (for proper lumbar support) and still be able to bend your knees. Try adding a nice extra-tall laptop riser too. Typical ones tend to be 6-12” too low once the desk is no longer too high for typing.
- wahnfrieden 8y ago
  Have a riser to recommend?
  - mtsr 8y ago
    It looks horrible, but at work I’ve been putting packs of A4 paper under the too low monitor stands of every flex desk I work at.
  - cimmanom 8y ago
    I use one of these ones that are intended as standing desk converters: https://www.uncagedergonomics.com/standing-desks/ https://www.uncagedergonomics.com/standing-desks/
dws 8y ago
Will your feet know the difference if it isn't really the floor they're flat on?
- snowwindwaves 8y ago
  Yes because I like to move my legs around a bit to the sides too and those little foot stools are too small. Or I roll away from the keyboard to use pen and paper and then have to move The foot rest.
reaperducer 8y ago
I have found I like a desk about 24-26" off the ground so I can sit with my feet flat on the floor and hands in my lap at the keyboard without shoulders hunched My company has an ergonomics consultant who comes to each desk once a year and observes posture, foot position, etc... then recommends changes in desks and seating for each person. It’s the first place I’ve worked that does this. Someone said it was somehow tied in with our health insurance company.

jniedrauer 8y ago

The idea of programming in green text on a black background with no syntax highlighting makes me shudder.

reaperducer 8y ago
I did it back in the olden days, on everything from Wyse and Wang terminals to a Commodore 64 and an IBM XT with MDA display. I haven’t done it that way in years, but this article makes me want to try it again. I wonder if all that highlighting is actually making me less focused. I guess I’ll find out later this week.
- XorNot 8y ago
  I can't see how you can get more productive by removing a channel of information from yourself though.
  - wutbrodo 8y ago
    Using this kind of rational-choice-based theory assumes complete control of the way your brain processes information and the channels it chooses to focus on, which simply isn't accurate. For a reductio ad absurdum, if you had a book in which each word was in bold purple iff its Scrabble score was divisible by 5, I don't think it would be controversial that removing that channel of information would make you more productive.
    - JetSpiegel 8y ago
      It would if it was a Scrabble dictionary.
      - wutbrodo 8y ago
        Very true, and completely irrelevant. We're talking about a counterexample to a universal claim, not a universal claim that runs counter to the original claim. The comment I responded to said (paraphrased) "I don't see how you could be more efficient by removing a channel of information", and this is what I disputed, providing a theoretical explanation and a simple example. The fact that examples in the contrary direction exist (as you point out) is not disputed by anyone. FWIW, as far as the specific upthread topic goes: despite generally preferring a pretty barebones development environment, I prefer syntax highlighting.

julianlam 8y ago

It's these small, stupid things that actually were the reason why I couldn't hack it on a Macbook. You just get stuck in your ways when everything is set up _just right_, and the little things that Macs do that Linux didn't, and vice versa, just drove me up the wall, even though it was small and stupid.

AlexCoventry 8y ago
I've had success with this situation in the past by working in a vm or docker container.
reaperducer 8y ago
I think I understand what you’re saying. I’m a big trackpad guy. The only one in my office. I love my gestures on macOS, and use all kinds of them to do my work. Recently yet another computer was added to my desk by IT for a new project. This one is an HP laptop with Ubuntu. I’m sure Ubuntu is a great thing and I’ll love it when I get used to it. But the HP’s keyboard and trackpad are terrible, and using the machine completely disrupts my usual workflow. I miss my gestures. I miss being able to define actions way out to F19. I miss knowing that a swipe will always be a swipe, and not a scroll. We get set in our ways, especially when those ways are very productive and make sense to us. Having to switch to a different set of muscle memories is problematic.
pdkl95 8y ago
> when everything is set up _just right_ That's why I'm still using Enlightenment DR16 as my window manager, with the same theme/config I've been slowly customizing for ~20 years. Every time I try a different windows manager (including any enlightenment >= E17) it feels like an incomplete toy, not the feature-rich tool I'm familiar with.
- zepearl 8y ago
  I did try to switch from e16 to e17 multiple times (on Gentoo), but I always had to rollback; I never found a bugfree version of e17. (sometimes in 2018 I had to switch away from e16 (got taken out from Gentoo's main package repo) and I ended up using XFCE. It's a pity that e17 never really worked, at least for me => I wonder if they'll ever publish a really stable version)

arvinsim 8y ago

I was able to get by with white on black terminal before. But nowadays, I can't stand coding if the editor doesn't have syntax highlighting.

juangacovas 8y ago
Same with being able to put the cursor over a variable name and automatically highlight all of them used in the same scope. Can't live without that

ggm 8y ago

Desks without modesty panels are a feature of offices without due consideration for personal privacy.

thibran 8y ago

For the typematic delay, I have no clue why it is so slow on Linux by default. Probably somebody has set those values 30 years ago and then nobody cared to update them. I use 'xset r rate 200 40' and when I use another Linux computer, typing feels just broken, super slow (Windows has better defaults than Linux in this regard). The weird part, there is no reason why keystrokes should have such a huge delay. Changing the xset values improves the user experience in a quite dramatic way.

kungtotte 8y ago
Could it be related to the teletype origins of Linux terminals? If you're on a slow line, you'll notice the difference more if your repeat rate is higher.
- blfr 8y ago
  Maybe but nowadays you can use mosh[1] and it's not an issue any more. [1] https://mosh.org/ https://mosh.org/
blfr 8y ago
This seems great. How did I not know this. Trying it out right away. EDIT: I adjusted it a little to have fewer repetitions per second but lowering the delay is amazing. What a great thing to find in your HN stocking. Merry Christmas!
tasuki 8y ago
Where do you put this magical "xset r rate 200 40" on a modern Linux desktop? ~/.bashrc is the wrong place for sure (I might not even be running X!) ~/.Xresources seems like it would be the right place but it's a command so that won't work...
- thibran 8y ago
  I have it in my i3 config: exec --no-startup-id sleep 2 && /usr/bin/xset r rate 200 40

mr_toad 8y ago

Anyone not coding on a 4K or higher monitor should complain. They’re not that expensive now, and the text is so much sharper. You might not notice the difference with a 4k TV on the other side of a room, but you will with a 28 inch screen a couple of feet in front of you.

arvinsim 8y ago
I don't like native 4k. Text rendering is too small for me. If I have to go native, 1440p or QHD ultrawides would be the best. But 4k scaled down in MacOS is great too!
- kdmytro 8y ago
  You have to set DPI that is appropriate for your screen size. If you keep using the default 90 DPI with a 15" 4K screen, the text will for sure be small because it is rendered as if the screen is about 49".
  - tasuki 8y ago
    DPI means dots per inch. It's a physical property of an LCD screen (well, technically, that would be called PPI - pixels per inch, but it's the same concept). I'm not sure how one would be able to set the DPI. At least not without really bad shenanigans blurring everything in the process. Isn't the solution for "small letters on high pixel density screen" scaling as mentioned by arvinism or simply increasing the font size?
    - kdmytro 8y ago
      Like you said, DPI (or PPI) is a physical property of a screen. You don't set it for the screen, you just let your text rendering software know the DPI so that it could get the absolute text size (in mm) correctly. Let's consider two 15.6" screens: 1. 1366x768, ~100 DPI 2. 1920x1080, ~141 DPI When rendering a piece of text in a certain font size on both screens without specifying correct DPI (e.g., leaving the default DPI value of 90), the text on both screens will take up the same amount of pixels, but the absolute size in mm will be different (text on screen 2 will be smaller because pixels are denser there). If you, however, let your OS know the DPIs of the screens, rendering the same piece of text in the same font size on both screens should lead to the text physically taking up roughly the same area of the screen (as much same as it could be, taking into account the fact that pixels are discrete). This is true because point[1] is an absolute unit of measurement. To give you an example, when I switched from 1366x768 15.6" laptop to 1920x1080 15.6" laptop I specified the new screen DPI in my desktop environment font appearance settings. This made all the text be roughly same size as on the old laptop, only smoother due to greater pixel density. > Isn't the solution for "small letters on high pixel density screen" scaling as mentioned by arvinism or simply increasing the font size? This way you must render a picture as if the screen has higher DPI, then scale it down to match the desired DPI, you still have DPI in play here, and absolute text size implications described above apply here as well. You can use scaling for antialiasing, though. --- [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography)

tetha 8y ago

My own small thing is my personal keyboard. I have both a mechanical and non-mechanical personal keyboard, mind you. They cost me a pretty penny ($100+ for each), and I wouldn't expect an employer to spend that easily. So I can just provide my own. I have really long arms overall and normal keyboards force me to both put my wrists at really weird angles and turn and twist my elbows to get my hands to fit there. Something like the Microsoft Natural was a decent-ish width, but the Kinesis advantage or the Ergodox are just amazing. It's funny to watch too - people are kinda scared to touch a Kinesis advantage "because it's split and weird", but they start touch-typing quickly and start arranging the keyboard parts as it is comfortable in small steps as well. You just nudge the keyboard part instinctively with your thumb or your pinky to make it more comfortable.

rcarmo 8y ago

When setting up a Linux VM to work from, I usually go with OpenBox, LXterminal and FBPanel and call it a day: https://github.com/rcarmo/docker-templates/tree/master/desktop-chrome/home/user/.config https://github.com/rcarmo/docker-templates/tree/master/deskt... Building a portable setup is a lot easier these days with Docker, but over the years I started paring down stuff to vim+tmux (which work fine inside WSL) and sharing my dotfiles across the Mac, Linux and Windows. The one thing that gets me every time, though, is having a working SSH keychain. I want to log in once and have ssh-agent just work, and it seems like every year I have to re-learn another way to do it (which is fine, but annoying).