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>>and provoke counterattacks - including on softer targets like families. Snipers are protected, no one knows their identity, they kill from 800m. Will they ta

>>and provoke counterattacks - including on softer targets like families. Snipers are protected, no one knows their identity, they kill from 800m. Will they target Ministers as retaliation? Maybe the top gang leaders have that ability but the rest will go as cannon fodder. Essentially Brazil made gun possession a capital punishment and two people from 800m away, judge, jury and executioner.

atombender 8y ago
Paradoxically/ironically, the new president is also preparing to liberalize gun laws (which are currently very restrictive, also a fairly recent change) so that everyone can own guns [1]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/world/americas/brazil-gun-laws-rights-bolsonaro.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/world/americas/brazil-gun...
Nasrudith 8y ago
Unfortunately history shows that angry humans don't generally care that much about accuracy with their revenge as opposed to the first soft target. From the scapegoating of millers by peasants partially because complaining about the ones actually taking advantage of them (clergy and nobility) would get you burnt at the stake or decapitated respectively (not to mention being disliked by both of the previous two for not fitting into the 'natural social order' of the castes). The Bath School Disaster attack was a farmer who killed his family and blew up a school he blamed for causing his farm to face repossession - when the dynamite he used in the attack alone could have been sold to provide for the payment. The schoolchildren had no part in his misfortune - even given inability to take responsibility or think ahead people actually involved with tax policy would make far more sense. Kent State had radicalized some into planning to bomb a ROTC dance in retaliation but they blew up their own loft building the bombs - the sad thing was that the planned plot actually still is /precise/ in terms of terrorists out for revenge. Common actual stations just make things ten times worse - Vietnam Veterans got tarred as baby killers over My Lai. It is a phenomenon I have noticed, a twisted form of reputational 'karma' that injustice begets injustice - not always but often. By refusing to make an appropriate example of egregious murderers they left the entire force tarnished in reputation. Mere Vietnamese propaganda or dirty guerilla tricks didn't burn in the reputation like the incident. This phenomenon isn't always right or wrong in itself (or possibly a matter for debate) but regardless is the consequences of past actions. A toddler sticking a fork into an electrical outlet and an assassin pricking themselves with a poisoned weapon both would die as a result of their actions but the justice, morality, and fault of the situations are antonyms.

atombender 8y ago

Paradoxically/ironically, the new president is also preparing to liberalize gun laws (which are currently very restrictive, also a fairly recent change) so that everyone can own guns [1]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/world/americas/brazil-gun-laws-rights-bolsonaro.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/world/americas/brazil-gun...

Nasrudith 8y ago

Unfortunately history shows that angry humans don't generally care that much about accuracy with their revenge as opposed to the first soft target. From the scapegoating of millers by peasants partially because complaining about the ones actually taking advantage of them (clergy and nobility) would get you burnt at the stake or decapitated respectively (not to mention being disliked by both of the previous two for not fitting into the 'natural social order' of the castes). The Bath School Disaster attack was a farmer who killed his family and blew up a school he blamed for causing his farm to face repossession - when the dynamite he used in the attack alone could have been sold to provide for the payment. The schoolchildren had no part in his misfortune - even given inability to take responsibility or think ahead people actually involved with tax policy would make far more sense. Kent State had radicalized some into planning to bomb a ROTC dance in retaliation but they blew up their own loft building the bombs - the sad thing was that the planned plot actually still is /precise/ in terms of terrorists out for revenge. Common actual stations just make things ten times worse - Vietnam Veterans got tarred as baby killers over My Lai. It is a phenomenon I have noticed, a twisted form of reputational 'karma' that injustice begets injustice - not always but often. By refusing to make an appropriate example of egregious murderers they left the entire force tarnished in reputation. Mere Vietnamese propaganda or dirty guerilla tricks didn't burn in the reputation like the incident. This phenomenon isn't always right or wrong in itself (or possibly a matter for debate) but regardless is the consequences of past actions. A toddler sticking a fork into an electrical outlet and an assassin pricking themselves with a poisoned weapon both would die as a result of their actions but the justice, morality, and fault of the situations are antonyms.