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"Weird to see "better privacy and security" listed when the notes say that it's not safe to use it with Tor. I assume it's just a compatibility issue with exten

"Weird to see "better privacy and security" listed when the notes say that it's not safe to use it with Tor. I assume it's just a compatibility issue with extensions or something, but still..." I'm guessing it lacks some of the more obnoxious features used by the Tor Browser bundle, such as the nag dialog when you change the window size. That particular window geometry being common for all tor users may be a good way to keep your browser fingerprint anonymous, but I wager that screen geometry for general internet access is less common than [fullscreen on whatever common size of screen you own.] I suspect that if your traffic isn't coming out of a known tor exit node, you're better off using a normal window geometry.

jstanley 8y ago
Except when do you ever use the browser at actual full screen? Your window decorations, desktop environment, and browser UI cruft reduce the viewport size by a few tens of pixels. And if you do use actual full screen, that's probably even more uniquely-identifying!
- darkpuma 8y ago
  >Except when do you ever use the browser at actual full screen? Almost always, maybe I'm weird like that... >"Your window decorations, desktop environment" For most people the signal that gets through will be "windows" or "mac". Anybody else may benefit from sending the "window geometry typically used by the tor browser but not coming from a known tor exit node" signal. Maybe. >"and browser UI cruft " That an interesting point, does enabling or disabling the bookmarks toolbar trigger the window geometry nag dialog in the Tor Browser bundle?
  - jstanley 8y ago
    > Almost always, maybe I'm weird like that... Right, so you're definitely producing a very unusual fingerprint in terms of browser dimensions. Yours is exactly the kind of use case that the Tor browser nag popup is supposed to help.
    - darkpuma 8y ago
      I wager my "fullscreen on a particular mac" signal is less unique than the "tor browser bundle size but not coming from a tor exit node" signal. Because what browser other than the tor browser uses that geometry? And how many people using that geometry aren't coming through a known tor exit node? I wager the haystack you'd be putting yourself in by doing this is vanishingly small.
librefox 8y ago
Also all tor feature are available nag dialog etc...

jstanley 8y ago

Except when do you ever use the browser at actual full screen? Your window decorations, desktop environment, and browser UI cruft reduce the viewport size by a few tens of pixels. And if you do use actual full screen, that's probably even more uniquely-identifying!

darkpuma 8y ago
>Except when do you ever use the browser at actual full screen? Almost always, maybe I'm weird like that... >"Your window decorations, desktop environment" For most people the signal that gets through will be "windows" or "mac". Anybody else may benefit from sending the "window geometry typically used by the tor browser but not coming from a known tor exit node" signal. Maybe. >"and browser UI cruft " That an interesting point, does enabling or disabling the bookmarks toolbar trigger the window geometry nag dialog in the Tor Browser bundle?
- jstanley 8y ago
  > Almost always, maybe I'm weird like that... Right, so you're definitely producing a very unusual fingerprint in terms of browser dimensions. Yours is exactly the kind of use case that the Tor browser nag popup is supposed to help.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    I wager my "fullscreen on a particular mac" signal is less unique than the "tor browser bundle size but not coming from a tor exit node" signal. Because what browser other than the tor browser uses that geometry? And how many people using that geometry aren't coming through a known tor exit node? I wager the haystack you'd be putting yourself in by doing this is vanishingly small.

librefox 8y ago

Also all tor feature are available nag dialog etc...