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Citation needed? I'd thought that men tended to have higher levels of agreement on what constituted attractiveness, so I'd expect the focus to be more concentra

by imh 8y ago

Citation needed? I'd thought that men tended to have higher levels of agreement on what constituted attractiveness, so I'd expect the focus to be more concentrated on the top quantile of women, since more men agree who that is, but I don't have data. Where'd you find that women are more focused on the top quantile of men than vice versa?

mdorazio 8y ago
Thought this was fairly well-known at this point. See [1] and [2] and really any data study on Ok Cupid or Tinder. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ [2] https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g...
- imh 8y ago
  Your first link supports the opposite of your point, I think. >As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable. Women seem to be more skewed than men in ratings, but less skewed than men in actual behavior. The second link just seems so methodologically terrible I'm skeptical to learn anything from it.
  - mdorazio 8y ago
    Yes, but that was only for OkCupid. For Tinder, the overwhelming strategy for most men is to swipe right on any woman that is even mildly attractive since it's a pure numbers game in most cases [1]. I agree the methodology on #2 is poor, but it's better than nothing and certainly better than anecdote. The other ad hoc "studies" I can find mostly point to more or less the same outcome, though, so I'm not sure it's worth wholly dismissing. If you have a counterexample with actual data I'd love to read it. [1] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/from-53-matches-to-4-dates-what-a-month-on-tinder-is-really-like-2018-03-13 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/from-53-matches-to-4-dates...

by imh 8y ago

mdorazio 8y ago

Thought this was fairly well-known at this point. See [1] and [2] and really any data study on Ok Cupid or Tinder. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ [2] https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g...

imh 8y ago
Your first link supports the opposite of your point, I think. >As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable. Women seem to be more skewed than men in ratings, but less skewed than men in actual behavior. The second link just seems so methodologically terrible I'm skeptical to learn anything from it.
- mdorazio 8y ago
  Yes, but that was only for OkCupid. For Tinder, the overwhelming strategy for most men is to swipe right on any woman that is even mildly attractive since it's a pure numbers game in most cases [1]. I agree the methodology on #2 is poor, but it's better than nothing and certainly better than anecdote. The other ad hoc "studies" I can find mostly point to more or less the same outcome, though, so I'm not sure it's worth wholly dismissing. If you have a counterexample with actual data I'd love to read it. [1] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/from-53-matches-to-4-dates-what-a-month-on-tinder-is-really-like-2018-03-13 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/from-53-matches-to-4-dates...