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First: I think that dating apps are fantastic for small sub populations that might otherwise have a hard time meeting each other. Grindr, JSwipe, MuzMatch, etc.

First: I think that dating apps are fantastic for small sub populations that might otherwise have a hard time meeting each other. Grindr, JSwipe, MuzMatch, etc. But for the larger population, I’m not sure that apps like Tinder are a good idea. For every few positive stories, including the ones in the article, there seems to be dozens of stories of misogynistic rants, unsolicited dick picks, and worse. Men appear to suffer pretty bad on the match ratio with the vast majority of matches going to a minority of men, while women appear to suffer the majority of the abuse. It seems pretty inefficient, and I’m kind of amazed that everyone seems to have an unspoken agreement to keep using these apps.

stared 8y ago
I would add OKCupid (though, it started changing in the direction of Tinder, sadly). For small populations it is easy to filter people based on their preferences. On Tinder it you interact with "mainstream" and it feels like searching for a needle in the haystack... just to get to one's target group. On a lighter tone, http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6948732/what-youre-really-saying-with-your-dating-app http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6948732/what-youre-really-s....
- village-idiot 8y ago
  I had no idea most of these existed. I thought badoo was a search engine?
  - kachnuv_ocasek 8y ago
    You probably confused that with Baidu.
lotsofpulp 8y ago
The long term monogamous dating market requires two people to accept that they likely won’t find someone better than the person they have found, so putting all of the options at one’s fingertips increases the risk of feeling like you could have done better.
- CM30 8y ago
  Part of me wonders whether this isn't exclusive to dating, but a lot of fields and things come the internet, globalisation and social media. Perhaps that's why getting a job seems to be much harder now for a decent percentage of people too, since now the competition is worldwide and mostly sky high. Employers can keep looking for the 'perfect' employee (and skip over people they would have hired with fewer options) and employees can keep looking for the 'perfect' company or organisation (and skip ones which may have been 'good enough' before). The market's been widened significantly, so those who aren't at the top of their field are against much tougher competition.
  - lotsofpulp 8y ago
    Yes, although there is no “monogamous” assumption with employment, so just as you would switch to a different vendor offering the same product for cheaper, so would employers. It doesn’t seem employers have been hurt much at all by the new dynamic, especially as more and more work becomes automated or broken into simpler routine tasks.
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lr4444lr 8y ago
But why did they spring up in the first place? Trends such as increased youth labor mobility expectations, more frequent job changes, and the decline of social interaction opprtunities (not at the bar) have really unmoored a lot of people socially.
- throwawayasdfgh 8y ago
  Tinder was originally Grindr, and it was meant to solve the double problem gay people had when finding a match, which is both the smaller dating pool and the risk of stigmatization. In this respect it was a huge boon to the gay community. One can imagine plenty of other such communities where such an app could be beneficial.
  - pseudalopex 8y ago
    Grindr obviously influenced Tinder, but they were produced by different companies.
- village-idiot 8y ago
  As best I can tell: 1. Money. There’s a lot to be earned here, and the advertising spend to entice users is equally high. 2. We already live our lives on social media anyways. What’s one more app? 3. A very good value proposition: access more singles than a random bar, and avoid the painful uncertainty of whether or not they’re interested. (Whether or not it delivers on this is another matter). 4. MeToo. There’s basically no chance for miscommunication if both parties swiped right.

stared 8y ago

I would add OKCupid (though, it started changing in the direction of Tinder, sadly). For small populations it is easy to filter people based on their preferences. On Tinder it you interact with "mainstream" and it feels like searching for a needle in the haystack... just to get to one's target group. On a lighter tone, http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6948732/what-youre-really-saying-with-your-dating-app http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6948732/what-youre-really-s....

village-idiot 8y ago
I had no idea most of these existed. I thought badoo was a search engine?
- kachnuv_ocasek 8y ago
  You probably confused that with Baidu.

lotsofpulp 8y ago

The long term monogamous dating market requires two people to accept that they likely won’t find someone better than the person they have found, so putting all of the options at one’s fingertips increases the risk of feeling like you could have done better.

CM30 8y ago
Part of me wonders whether this isn't exclusive to dating, but a lot of fields and things come the internet, globalisation and social media. Perhaps that's why getting a job seems to be much harder now for a decent percentage of people too, since now the competition is worldwide and mostly sky high. Employers can keep looking for the 'perfect' employee (and skip over people they would have hired with fewer options) and employees can keep looking for the 'perfect' company or organisation (and skip ones which may have been 'good enough' before). The market's been widened significantly, so those who aren't at the top of their field are against much tougher competition.
- lotsofpulp 8y ago
  Yes, although there is no “monogamous” assumption with employment, so just as you would switch to a different vendor offering the same product for cheaper, so would employers. It doesn’t seem employers have been hurt much at all by the new dynamic, especially as more and more work becomes automated or broken into simpler routine tasks.

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lr4444lr 8y ago

But why did they spring up in the first place? Trends such as increased youth labor mobility expectations, more frequent job changes, and the decline of social interaction opprtunities (not at the bar) have really unmoored a lot of people socially.

throwawayasdfgh 8y ago
Tinder was originally Grindr, and it was meant to solve the double problem gay people had when finding a match, which is both the smaller dating pool and the risk of stigmatization. In this respect it was a huge boon to the gay community. One can imagine plenty of other such communities where such an app could be beneficial.
- pseudalopex 8y ago
  Grindr obviously influenced Tinder, but they were produced by different companies.
village-idiot 8y ago
As best I can tell: 1. Money. There’s a lot to be earned here, and the advertising spend to entice users is equally high. 2. We already live our lives on social media anyways. What’s one more app? 3. A very good value proposition: access more singles than a random bar, and avoid the painful uncertainty of whether or not they’re interested. (Whether or not it delivers on this is another matter). 4. MeToo. There’s basically no chance for miscommunication if both parties swiped right.