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> I don’t love paying for people picking up smoking / vaping since the dangers were known Are the dangers of vaping known tho? Is there any study that shows it

> I don’t love paying for people picking up smoking / vaping since the dangers were known Are the dangers of vaping known tho? Is there any study that shows it causes physical damage like inhaling smoke from a burning cigarette? Is seems fairly obvious to me that inhaling vegetable glycerin and nicotine does not cause any harm. The only "problem" is the nicotine addiction, but that one does not cause any physical harm, it just costs money to buy refills.

EamonnMR 8y ago
The dangers of vaping are unknown, however the fear is that once hooked on Nicotine users may switch to cigarettes.
- hopler 8y ago
  Vapes like Juul are also way easier to consume to excess, for reasons the OP explains.
cyphar 8y ago
> Is seems fairly obvious to me that inhaling vegetable glycerin and nicotine does not cause any harm. Why is that obvious? Lungs evolved to absorb oxygen not vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol. In fact there is some evidence that it may be harmful to protective cells in the lung walls, potentially increasing the risk of lung inflammation[1]. Obviously we'll have to wait 30 years to know of any long-term effects, but maybe common sense would be a better life decision if you don't want to be a test subject. I would also suggest that there is a risk of cheap e-cigarettes causing even more serious harm because they might have contaminants in the fluid being inhaled. [1]: https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161 https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161
- y0ghur7_xxx 8y ago
  > https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161 https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161 Thank you I didn't know about this.
tinus_hn 8y ago
‘Seems fairly obvious’ is just about the most useless qualification you can make up for this. Nicotine is poisonous, it seems fairly obvious that ingesting it causes damage. Unsurprisingly, even though e-cigarettes and friends haven’t been on the market for very long, the data already shows it’s harmful. It causes development issues in children, fertility problems in women, blood pressure and heart problems for everyone. And that’s what we know now. It’s only less harmful if you compare it with smoking.

EamonnMR 8y ago

The dangers of vaping are unknown, however the fear is that once hooked on Nicotine users may switch to cigarettes.

hopler 8y ago
Vapes like Juul are also way easier to consume to excess, for reasons the OP explains.

cyphar 8y ago

> Is seems fairly obvious to me that inhaling vegetable glycerin and nicotine does not cause any harm. Why is that obvious? Lungs evolved to absorb oxygen not vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol. In fact there is some evidence that it may be harmful to protective cells in the lung walls, potentially increasing the risk of lung inflammation[1]. Obviously we'll have to wait 30 years to know of any long-term effects, but maybe common sense would be a better life decision if you don't want to be a test subject. I would also suggest that there is a risk of cheap e-cigarettes causing even more serious harm because they might have contaminants in the fluid being inhaled. [1]: https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161 https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161

y0ghur7_xxx 8y ago
> https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161 https://thorax.bmj.com/content/73/12/1161 Thank you I didn't know about this.

tinus_hn 8y ago

‘Seems fairly obvious’ is just about the most useless qualification you can make up for this. Nicotine is poisonous, it seems fairly obvious that ingesting it causes damage. Unsurprisingly, even though e-cigarettes and friends haven’t been on the market for very long, the data already shows it’s harmful. It causes development issues in children, fertility problems in women, blood pressure and heart problems for everyone. And that’s what we know now. It’s only less harmful if you compare it with smoking.