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> Jesus said “follow the Law”. He always taught to follow the law, and never once said it would be obsolete after his crucifixion He said the law would not ch

> Jesus said “follow the Law”. He always taught to follow the law, and never once said it would be obsolete after his crucifixion He said the law would not change until all is accomplished. After drinking the vinegar, before dying, he said "all is accomplished". Paul's teachings are thus consistent with this.

EGreg 8y ago
No, that's only if you read the English translation. In the original Greek, the two words are very different. The original context is from Matthew 5:18, which could potentially have been written in Hebrew: "17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one [a]jot or one [b]tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." Notice a few things: 1) Heaven and Earth have not yet passed away, many Christians ignore this part completely, but it needs to be explained why it was mentioned. It would seem the obvious reason is that "all will be accomplished" around the time that Heaven and Earth will pass away, including spreading the gospel to everyone. In another place Jesus says "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." 2) Notice that even those who ARE in Heaven will be called Least if they set aside even the smallest commandment and teach others to do so. Thus, even Christians need to be concerned with the Law. Literally nowhere did Jesus even bring up the idea that the Law will be obsolete. That is an idea originated by Paul.
- i-am-that-i-am 8y ago
  My understanding is that Jesus was talking specifically about the moral law, that which is "written on our hearts."
  - EGreg 8y ago
    That is a distinction made later, it's nowhere in the Bible even. Certainly never mentioned by Jesus. He explicitly said people who don't follow even the smallest commandment are to be called least in the kingdom of Heaven. No distinction between moral law or not. And look at James 2:10 he says the same thing, written AFTER Jesus was on the cross!
- cat199 8y ago
  > Notice that even those who ARE in Heaven will be called Least if they set aside even the smallest commandment and teach others to do so. yet he healed on the sabbath.. sooo..
  - grumpydba 8y ago
    He also abolished repudiation.
- grumpydba 8y ago
  The final word he used is "tetelestai", wish can be translated by paid in full. The meaning is there.
  - EGreg 8y ago
    It actually means "it is finished". But even "paid in full" is very different from "all the prophecies have been fulfilled". There are still prophecies coming up. As I said, Heaven and Earth did not pass away. What was the point of mentioning them, in your view? It's pretty clear Jesus was talking about the end times.

EGreg 8y ago

No, that's only if you read the English translation. In the original Greek, the two words are very different. The original context is from Matthew 5:18, which could potentially have been written in Hebrew: "17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one [a]jot or one [b]tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." Notice a few things: 1) Heaven and Earth have not yet passed away, many Christians ignore this part completely, but it needs to be explained why it was mentioned. It would seem the obvious reason is that "all will be accomplished" around the time that Heaven and Earth will pass away, including spreading the gospel to everyone. In another place Jesus says "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." 2) Notice that even those who ARE in Heaven will be called Least if they set aside even the smallest commandment and teach others to do so. Thus, even Christians need to be concerned with the Law. Literally nowhere did Jesus even bring up the idea that the Law will be obsolete. That is an idea originated by Paul.

i-am-that-i-am 8y ago
My understanding is that Jesus was talking specifically about the moral law, that which is "written on our hearts."
- EGreg 8y ago
  That is a distinction made later, it's nowhere in the Bible even. Certainly never mentioned by Jesus. He explicitly said people who don't follow even the smallest commandment are to be called least in the kingdom of Heaven. No distinction between moral law or not. And look at James 2:10 he says the same thing, written AFTER Jesus was on the cross!
cat199 8y ago
> Notice that even those who ARE in Heaven will be called Least if they set aside even the smallest commandment and teach others to do so. yet he healed on the sabbath.. sooo..
- grumpydba 8y ago
  He also abolished repudiation.
grumpydba 8y ago
The final word he used is "tetelestai", wish can be translated by paid in full. The meaning is there.
- EGreg 8y ago
  It actually means "it is finished". But even "paid in full" is very different from "all the prophecies have been fulfilled". There are still prophecies coming up. As I said, Heaven and Earth did not pass away. What was the point of mentioning them, in your view? It's pretty clear Jesus was talking about the end times.