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Every minute "over 400 hours" of content is uploaded to YouTube. It's a serious challenge to moderate a community at that scale. This extends far beyond just t
by Carpetsmoker 8y ago
Every minute "over 400 hours" of content is uploaded to YouTube. It's a serious challenge to moderate a community at that scale.
This extends far beyond just the copyright claims. There is all sort of objectionable content being uploaded that needs to be removed, and it's easy to find literal neo-Nazi propaganda in the YouTube comments, as well as all sorts of racial slurs. Reporting this seems to have little effect in my experience.
I don't have any good answers to this problem, but it's frustrating that YouTube is so opaque in their process. I have no idea what happened to my reports of neo-Nazi content for example (it wasn't removed) and also no notification that it was reviewed but denied. I hold little love for Facebook, but in my experience their process is a lot better.
- reaperducer 8y agoEvery minute "over 400 hours" of content is uploaded to YouTube. It's a serious challenge to moderate a community at that scale. If only YouTube had a large parent company with a significant portion of a trillion dollars that could be spent actually taking care of this problem. Instead we get, “Let the bot script handle it. Oh, the system doesn’t work? Too bad.”
- tcd 8y ago"If only the world had a significant portion of several trillion dollars that could be spent curing cancer". Money isn't the answer to all the world's problems. But I'm intrigued to hear how you think they should "take care of the problem". Maybe you can share your innovative python script that solves the problem for good.
- reaperducer 8y agoI'm intrigued to hear how you think they should "take care of the problem". Hire actual humans to review disputed decisions, while putting in a proper appeals process that is also overseen by actual thinking humans. Maybe you can share your innovative python script that solves the problem for good. I'm not Google. I don't pretend that all of the world's problems can be solved by computers, and then fail while trying.
- tcd 8y agoThey do have humans, but they make mistakes and have bias. And if we need to cover the amount of content Youtube gets per second we'd need a country of people. Oh wait, Youtube have just gone bankrupt.
- lozenge 8y agoThis is about disputed copyright claims, not all videos. Besides, most of these copyright holders probably file hundreds of automated claims (from examples in the thread: chiptune samples, royalty free drum loops, presidential speeches, CC licensed music). If it's obvious that it isn't copyrighted, YouTube can remove the fingerprint from the Content ID system and force the supposed copyright holder to issue a DMCA notice, which is much easier to dispute and works in favour of the uploader.
- Gonkero 8y agoMachine learning IS the solution. If you have a better idea, you should contact Google immediately.
- v_lisivka 8y agoHow to contact Google?
- fzeroracer 8y agoIt should be obviously that the issue with humans is the same if not worse. People already complain en masse about Google censoring all kinds of stuff. Put a human behind things and then people will demand their head for taking down controversial videos. Their algorithm is absolutely terrible however and doesn't absolve them of allowing incredibly awful content to exist on their platform. However this is simply not an easy problem to solve when you serve such a large community and want to bend to support as much of it as possible.
- anticensor 8y ago> had a large parent company with a significant portion of a trillion dollars You are describing Alphabet.
- gdy 8y agoNo shit, Sherlock