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Outside of any context you mean. I don't see what making millions has to do with it.

by wyoh 8y ago

sascha_sl 8y ago
An ironic nazi is still a nazi. No matter how you turn this, this guy: 1. Commissioned someone for 5 dollars to hold up a sign stating "Death to all jews" 2. Published the footage upon seeing it to an impressionable young audience, without putting why it'd be wrong to do into context. And thought this was an okay thing to do. That's all that was reported on. And rightfully so. I find it very sad that I get warned for "ideological posting" and yet quillette is a source allowed on here; easy to spot what ideology they support by their mention of Ben Shapiro as some sort of idol: reactionary. (If you're not convinced, find their sidebar for feminism bashing) You should really reconsider if your own bias is distorting your moderation policies, dang.
- anon12345690 8y ago
  that was satire to show what you can do for just 5 bucks but he apologized for it whats wrong with the quillette and ben shapiro? arent you showing your bias here?
  - sascha_sl 8y ago
    >arent you showing your bias here? You're saying that as if a post unopposed is neutral, and opposition is "taking a side" and therefore showing bias. It's not. There is no neutral here. The article poster has taken a side and the moderation team has too, even if it's just a slight pro. I can say a lot about Shapiro, few things good. But I've been told to keep away from this sort of flame war and I'm convinced if you're willing to change your mind you can seek out the information I'd provide easily on your own.
  - gamer_throwaway 8y ago
    Precisely what mode of thought was he satirizing? "Satire" has a meaning - A Modest Proposal wasn't Swift going "haha what if we ate babies"
    - anon12345690 8y ago
      that you can do crazy stuff for 5 bucks that didnt get stopped all by the services he tried and the people he hired
  - throwhuawei 8y ago
    The fact that quillette takes this clown of Ben "Okay, that is epic" Shapiro seriouslt _is_ the problem here.
- drak0n1c 8y ago
  Monty Python went on British national television in front of impressionable children dressed as Nazis, making their salutes, and quipping their slogans. Were they actually Nazis? I'm Jewish and I'm open to criticizing decisions and behavior that make light of anti-Semitism, but classifying someone as a racist, Nazi, or white supremacist should have a higher standard.
- Tehnix 8y ago
  You, stating 1. and 2. like that, quite clearly shows that you a) no nothing about the situation except the extremely biased news articles you’ve read, or b) have malicious intent, because if you did know the situation, you wouldn’t present it like that. PewDiePie has commented quite a few times on this, but I’ll loop you in. 1. He was, in a satirical bit, showing what people were offering as services on Fiverr. As a result of this, he was surprised about what people were willing to do, and wanted to push it to the limit. He expected his request to get rejected, but it actually got approved and the guys did the sign—proving the point that people are basically willing to do anything for $5. 2. Have you even seen the video? You’ll honestly have to be the most clueless person on earth to not see that he is quite clearly not thinking this is okay, not is he condoning what they did, but it is still a very relevant thing to showcase what people are willing to do. > An ironic nazi is still a nazi. No matter how you turn this... Sure...if he was even remotely a nazi...Are you aware that what you are doing is actually doing a service to actual bro-nazis and a disservice to people trying to deal with actual problematic people? Desensitising people like this, means they won’t take the serious cases, well, seriously. Ever heard of the boy that cried wolf?
  - sascha_sl 8y ago
    If you think having some guys write, let's say it again "DEATH TO ALL JEWS" on a banner for 5 bux is some sort of capitalism critique and not a spectacle to get views, I don't know what to tell you. I guess I can leave you with this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNILjFters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNILjFters

Outside of any context you mean. I don't see what making millions has to do with it.

by wyoh 8y ago

Outside of any context you mean. I don't see what making millions has to do with it.

An ironic nazi is still a nazi. No matter how you turn this, this guy: 1. Commissioned someone for 5 dollars to hold up a sign stating "Death to all jews" 2. Published the footage upon seeing it to an impressionable young audience, without putting why it'd be wrong to do into context. And thought this was an okay thing to do. That's all that was reported on. And rightfully so. I find it very sad that I get warned for "ideological posting" and yet quillette is a source allowed on here; easy to spot what ideology they support by their mention of Ben Shapiro as some sort of idol: reactionary. (If you're not convinced, find their sidebar for feminism bashing) You should really reconsider if your own bias is distorting your moderation policies, dang.

anon12345690 8y ago
that was satire to show what you can do for just 5 bucks but he apologized for it whats wrong with the quillette and ben shapiro? arent you showing your bias here?
- sascha_sl 8y ago
  >arent you showing your bias here? You're saying that as if a post unopposed is neutral, and opposition is "taking a side" and therefore showing bias. It's not. There is no neutral here. The article poster has taken a side and the moderation team has too, even if it's just a slight pro. I can say a lot about Shapiro, few things good. But I've been told to keep away from this sort of flame war and I'm convinced if you're willing to change your mind you can seek out the information I'd provide easily on your own.
- gamer_throwaway 8y ago
  Precisely what mode of thought was he satirizing? "Satire" has a meaning - A Modest Proposal wasn't Swift going "haha what if we ate babies"
  - anon12345690 8y ago
    that you can do crazy stuff for 5 bucks that didnt get stopped all by the services he tried and the people he hired
- throwhuawei 8y ago
  The fact that quillette takes this clown of Ben "Okay, that is epic" Shapiro seriouslt _is_ the problem here.
drak0n1c 8y ago
Monty Python went on British national television in front of impressionable children dressed as Nazis, making their salutes, and quipping their slogans. Were they actually Nazis? I'm Jewish and I'm open to criticizing decisions and behavior that make light of anti-Semitism, but classifying someone as a racist, Nazi, or white supremacist should have a higher standard.
Tehnix 8y ago
You, stating 1. and 2. like that, quite clearly shows that you a) no nothing about the situation except the extremely biased news articles you’ve read, or b) have malicious intent, because if you did know the situation, you wouldn’t present it like that. PewDiePie has commented quite a few times on this, but I’ll loop you in. 1. He was, in a satirical bit, showing what people were offering as services on Fiverr. As a result of this, he was surprised about what people were willing to do, and wanted to push it to the limit. He expected his request to get rejected, but it actually got approved and the guys did the sign—proving the point that people are basically willing to do anything for $5. 2. Have you even seen the video? You’ll honestly have to be the most clueless person on earth to not see that he is quite clearly not thinking this is okay, not is he condoning what they did, but it is still a very relevant thing to showcase what people are willing to do. > An ironic nazi is still a nazi. No matter how you turn this... Sure...if he was even remotely a nazi...Are you aware that what you are doing is actually doing a service to actual bro-nazis and a disservice to people trying to deal with actual problematic people? Desensitising people like this, means they won’t take the serious cases, well, seriously. Ever heard of the boy that cried wolf?
- sascha_sl 8y ago
  If you think having some guys write, let's say it again "DEATH TO ALL JEWS" on a banner for 5 bux is some sort of capitalism critique and not a spectacle to get views, I don't know what to tell you. I guess I can leave you with this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNILjFters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNILjFters