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One of PewDiePie recent videos highlights this issue. He had one of his videos copystriked in which he used a fair use segment from another video. And in that s

One of PewDiePie recent videos highlights this issue. He had one of his videos copystriked in which he used a fair use segment from another video. And in that segment was a song playing in the background. So, that's like three levels deep of systematic abuse. Apparently, you can also get in trouble by humming or singing (for a few seconds) copyrighted songs. That's just plain stupid. It's kind of funny though, seeing a song copyright holder getting hit by a 3rd-party strike. Goes to show what kind of a mess YouTube is turning into. And it for sure does not help that YouTube's motto is 'screw creators. we are always right.'.

r3bl 8y ago
It seems to me like the viewers are finally starting to give a shit. Otherwise, YouTube Rewind wouldn't be the most disliked video ever in a matter of days.
- markovbot 8y ago
  That sure showed them!
  - r3bl 8y ago
    If your biggest project of the year that includes (or is at least supposed to include) the biggest creators on your platform becomes the most disliked video on your platform, you're bound to take notice. Your marketing team is surely gonna attend a meeting or two to answer some questions about what the hell happened and how could a creation that's supposed to unite the platform become the most disliked one in its history. Of course, you wouldn't want to go public with the internal drama, because why would you, that would only weakens your position. You can't minimize the damage either, it's a done deal. You can either accept the alienation of your audience or do something to fix the situation. Regardless of what choice they make, it is bound to become a point of no return.
    - snaky 8y ago
      Maybe that's just an effect of mixing different youtubers catering to different crowds in one video. Put monster trucks and chess in one video, and you get dislike from not a small part of both monster trucks fans and chess fans.
ams6110 8y ago
Yep, my kid had a video of himself singing a popular song removed on copyright grounds. He was like 8 years old.
- paulpauper 8y ago
  was it a Prince song? lol
- meh2frdf 8y ago
  Well that is what copyright upholds. The problem is there is no simple way you can get a license for the video clip from the rights holders. And then no sensible way of verifying that license with the platform.
  - CuriousSkeptic 8y ago
    Not necessarily. I think for most countries only public performances are prohibited. While YouTube certainly is a public platform I think an interesting case could be made for videos with a limited popularity, say only viewed by family and friends.
    - meh2frdf 8y ago
      So you would need a change internationally to copyright law, and then for YouTube to limit the number of viewers to a video (which doesn’t make much business sense). There are a lot of opinions on how copyright should work, however little understanding of how it actually works. There are possible tech solutions that could work with the current copyright system. The truth is both big tech and the rights collection societies like the status quo as they both profit off the actual creative works done by others. The actual battle is between who can get the biggest slice.
      - CuriousSkeptic 8y ago
        It wasn’t meant as a suggestion, I actually meant that a case could be made in court that a particular performance isn’t public with a reference to low view counts.
TeMPOraL 8y ago
> Apparently, you can also get in trouble by humming or singing (for a few seconds) copyrighted songs. That's just plain stupid. Disregarding the main issue, I'm impressed by that level of detection. I mean, if it works reliably, they could spin it off to make a better Shazam. I find myself in need to identify a melody stuck in my head, which I can hum, far more often than a song playing in the background.
- aylons 8y ago
  Try Sound Hound! I've been using it for several years, and it does identify hums and badly song music I have in my head.

r3bl 8y ago

It seems to me like the viewers are finally starting to give a shit. Otherwise, YouTube Rewind wouldn't be the most disliked video ever in a matter of days.

markovbot 8y ago
That sure showed them!
- r3bl 8y ago
  If your biggest project of the year that includes (or is at least supposed to include) the biggest creators on your platform becomes the most disliked video on your platform, you're bound to take notice. Your marketing team is surely gonna attend a meeting or two to answer some questions about what the hell happened and how could a creation that's supposed to unite the platform become the most disliked one in its history. Of course, you wouldn't want to go public with the internal drama, because why would you, that would only weakens your position. You can't minimize the damage either, it's a done deal. You can either accept the alienation of your audience or do something to fix the situation. Regardless of what choice they make, it is bound to become a point of no return.
  - snaky 8y ago
    Maybe that's just an effect of mixing different youtubers catering to different crowds in one video. Put monster trucks and chess in one video, and you get dislike from not a small part of both monster trucks fans and chess fans.

ams6110 8y ago

Yep, my kid had a video of himself singing a popular song removed on copyright grounds. He was like 8 years old.

paulpauper 8y ago
was it a Prince song? lol
meh2frdf 8y ago
Well that is what copyright upholds. The problem is there is no simple way you can get a license for the video clip from the rights holders. And then no sensible way of verifying that license with the platform.
- CuriousSkeptic 8y ago
  Not necessarily. I think for most countries only public performances are prohibited. While YouTube certainly is a public platform I think an interesting case could be made for videos with a limited popularity, say only viewed by family and friends.
  - meh2frdf 8y ago
    So you would need a change internationally to copyright law, and then for YouTube to limit the number of viewers to a video (which doesn’t make much business sense). There are a lot of opinions on how copyright should work, however little understanding of how it actually works. There are possible tech solutions that could work with the current copyright system. The truth is both big tech and the rights collection societies like the status quo as they both profit off the actual creative works done by others. The actual battle is between who can get the biggest slice.
    - CuriousSkeptic 8y ago
      It wasn’t meant as a suggestion, I actually meant that a case could be made in court that a particular performance isn’t public with a reference to low view counts.

TeMPOraL 8y ago

> Apparently, you can also get in trouble by humming or singing (for a few seconds) copyrighted songs. That's just plain stupid. Disregarding the main issue, I'm impressed by that level of detection. I mean, if it works reliably, they could spin it off to make a better Shazam. I find myself in need to identify a melody stuck in my head, which I can hum, far more often than a song playing in the background.

aylons 8y ago
Try Sound Hound! I've been using it for several years, and it does identify hums and badly song music I have in my head.